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Post by Mike on Nov 10, 2020 21:43:22 GMT -5
Because it's worth giving posts for this its own thread as opposed to dumping them all in the one for schedules. Anyone else catch 11/6/99 last week? Had to miss it...how was it? As for this week, looking at the chart, there's enough decent-to-good songs on here to check it out. 2003 might be the one year that I skip from time to time, though.
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Post by Mike on Nov 11, 2020 0:24:14 GMT -5
So it begins...the long, strange journey of "Don't Know Why". This song peaked at #35, but spent the full 20 weeks on the R&R chart to go recurrent. Much was said about this on the R&R board back then. We go from that - to a one week wonder! This is the only week in the countdown for "Oh Yeah". The Candlelight Mix of "Heaven" has just THREE stations reported for playing it - which very obviously isn't possible, as that would mean each was playing it 471 times during the week! Unless I was hearing things, that's Larry Morgan on the Wrigley's Spearmint Gum and Listerine ads. Didn't realize CK 105 in Flint was playing this show - I might have tried to seek it out had I known. (Then again, I don't quite remember when I started checking out out-of-area stations...might have been further down the line than this.) MAJOR error behind having "Higher" as an America's Top Hit "two years ago this week". Now, I'm not sure if the Hot AC and AC shows had their chart changed for the same duration that the main show did (mid-October 2000 to mid-August 2001), but if not, then in fact "Higher" would for sure still have been on the Hot AC show for 11/18/2000. BUT: That's its last week in the countdown. And, of course, it had been a recurrent off the main show for 2 months to that point. This is to say, calling it a "top hit" this week in 2000 is a huge stretch at best. Adding insult to injury? 2 Years Ago This Week - with #1 "With Arms Wide Open" getting read. If not for the "I'll Remember" LDD being more of a "fond memories" dedication than an overtly-sad one, I would've said that following "What's Your Flava?" would place it right on the list of bad LDD placements - headlined of course by a certain one from a year that shares a calendar with 2002. Meanwhile, the second LDD might have a stranger lead- out, as it's about someone's friends cheering its writer up after she chose to skip a dance that was too painful to go to - while "Starry Eyed Surprise", which followed it, involves encountering a girl while out dancing at a club. Even though AT40 was far away from Billboard by 2002...guess what was STILL the Top Hit in the USA this week in 1994? "These Are the Days" might be the week's Biggest Mover in the countdown, but it's only the 7th-biggest spin gainer on the R&R chart. The biggest gainer is "Work It", also the only one gaining four digits (just over 1000), though runner-up "Lose Yourself" gained just under that. It never really dawned on me back in '02, but upon checking, the second half of the year would belong to the same three acts sitting at #1! There's just one two-week exception to that - and the song up there this week is indeed it. VERY surprising to have as many as the Top 12 in the final hour - I can't think of a single show after 1980 (1980!) to have a final hour have that many. They messed up with the Adult Contemporary #1 - that chart had a new #1 this week, "Can't Stop Loving You" by Phil Collins. Vanessa would in fact return to #1 right after for one more week, but this week she was pushed back.
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Post by adam31 on Nov 13, 2020 15:45:45 GMT -5
Unless I was hearing things, that's Larry Morgan on the Wrigley's Spearmint Gum and Listerine ads. MAJOR error behind having "Higher" as an America's Top Hit "two years ago this week". Now, I'm not sure if the Hot AC and AC shows had their chart changed for the same duration that the main show did (mid-October 2000 to mid-August 2001), but if not, then in fact "Higher" would for sure still have been on the Hot AC show for 11/18/2000. BUT: That's its last week in the countdown. And, of course, it had been a recurrent off the main show for 2 months to that point. This is to say, calling it a "top hit" this week in 2000 is a huge stretch at best. Adding insult to injury? 2 Years Ago This Week - with #1 "With Arms Wide Open" getting read. They messed up with the Adult Contemporary #1 - that chart had a new #1 this week, "Can't Stop Loving You" by Phil Collins. Vanessa would in fact return to #1 right after for one more week, but this week she was pushed back. Yes I thought I recognized Larry... It's inspiring in a way that even a big radio conglomerate's writers make mistakes sometimes...
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Post by Mike on Nov 17, 2020 20:53:33 GMT -5
So, the America's Top Hits are missing this week?
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Post by laura on Nov 17, 2020 23:33:11 GMT -5
It looks like it. My copy doesn't have them either.
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Post by Mike on Nov 18, 2020 0:30:19 GMT -5
No matter...some other observations: Definitely a hip-hop-heavy countdown - I'd say it covers the entire 40, but thanks to a surprise at the end, it goes a bit lighter in the Top 10. Still, it seems heavier this week than last week. On the AT40 board I noted in the CT40 Request & Dedications thread where some weeks in 1992 had the R&Ds the same between the regular show and the AC show, but in different orders. The same thing was in play here - it's apparently not until 2003 where different songs for the same dedications would effectively be the norm, but this week has the same songs in a different order, at least between this show and the Hot AC show: 'N Sync is third in the Hot AC show (pushing the other two each up one) rather than first. RE: "What's Going On" - apparently "All Star Tribute" was the credited name in R&R, while in fact "Artists Against AIDS Worldwide" was the name on the released song. I don't remember this coming up back in 2001, but then, most of the second half of 2001 (when I was first a member on their board) is a blur. "Private Eyes" at #1 20 years ago this week is a Billboard stat/a stat from actual AT40. "Cream", on the other hand, was #1 on both AT40 and CT40 on 11/16/91. ...and no sooner does Casey give the "Cream" mention than he goes and throws an R&R stat in there. "Groovy Train", mentioned in the intro for Alien Ant Farm, didn't even hit Billboard's AT40 at all - it stopped at #41 on the Hot 100 (it also peaked right at the time of the 1991 chart change). ...and not just one, but two: "Orinoco Flow", mentioned in the intro for "Only Time", hit #25 in R&R, #24 on Billboard. Rare R&R errors this week - Casey mentioned that "It's Been Awhile" has been in the survey for 23 weeks, longest of anyone. R&R has them at 22 weeks, but upon checking, a week fell off somewhere - it's Casey who's right. And it's not just the different charts in play here (23 weeks ago would put them in the different Mediabase chart period) - they debuted on 6/16/01, which they would have had AT40 been using R&R straight as well. They're also missing a week for Eve (printed as 21 weeks, actually has 22) and Blu Cantrell (printed as 18 weeks, actually has 19). Despite songs lasting longer in the era of monitored airplay, just two acts in this week's survey would still be on their same respective albums a year later (heard last week) - Pink and Michelle Branch. (Both on the final singles from those albums a year later, and Michelle's only a few weeks away from falling off.) Who puts a reconciliation LDD from a man who messed up, after an uptempo by a woman that's about revenge on a man who messed up? Apparently, Premiere puts a reconciliation LDD from a man who messed up, after an uptempo by a woman that's about revenge on a man who messed up. (I think it's...October? that actually marked 20 years of Premiere's affiliation with all things AT40. It might have been the same week of the chart change - 10/21/2000 - but I don't remember for sure.) Odd that Casey would mention "U Got it Bad" as being #1 on the Urban chart this week and then not read that later on with the others (including Alternative, which he also mentioned earlier). One more Billboard/R&R disparity: Mary J. Blige's first trip to AT40 was actually "You Remind Me", which came right before "Real Love" in 1992, though it didn't last long (just a month, and only reaching #37) - and it didn't touch R&R. VERY surprised that they played the original "I'm Real" instead of the Ja Rule version, particularly with a story for that - but, that may have been due to time, as the original is only 3:15 in its radio edit form, while the Ja Rule version is 4:21. Then again, what does that say that they couldn't time that out properly?
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Post by adam31 on Nov 18, 2020 7:25:34 GMT -5
It looks like it. My copy doesn't have them either. So, the America's Top Hits are missing this week? Nope, I was surprised myself. Thought I was missing some files lol.
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Post by Mike on Nov 19, 2020 6:29:36 GMT -5
I missed one: What a difference 9 years makes - last week in The Shadoe Stevens Years, we had 11/14/92, which contained Mary J. Blige's "Real Love" up at #4. And that would stand as her personal best in AT40 for 9 years henceforth. That is...until the show we got in this column on Tuesday, with "Family Affair" leaping from #6 to #3 (and on its way to #1).
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Post by Mike on Nov 24, 2020 20:45:37 GMT -5
Since we're not going to hear Casey read the droppers this week, those were:
"Jump, Jive, An' Wail" by The Brian Setzer Orchestra (LW: 39, 16 weeks on), "Go Deep" by Janet Jackson (LW: 35, 17 weeks on), and "Real World" by Matchbox 20 (LW: 23, 26 weeks on; went recurrent on R&R).
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Post by Mike on Nov 25, 2020 0:13:01 GMT -5
For the third week in a row, we get a show with a one-week-wonder. (Two weeks ago it was 2002, last week it was Shadoe who had two of them.) In this case, it's "It's the Things You Do" - and I took a look at the next couple of weeks following this week's chart. Turns out they may have just been lucky to sneak in here, or unlucky to not go longer than this one week. They're #40 and over 300 spins behind the next song, and continue to gain spins over the next two weeks - but got pushed out the week after this by even bigger spin gainers, and the higher spin threshold needed to stay in the Top 40, stuck. Incidentally, that 300-plus spin gap is the 4th biggest on the entire chart this week, and the only one not in the Top 15. (Two of them are in the Top 5!) Speaking of spin gainers, the first SIXTEEN songs in this week's countdown are all gaining. Actually, there's just 12 songs in the entire 40 who lose even 1 spin - a startingly low number. About the only countdown I can think of that has anywhere near that kind of bullet saturation is a Shadoe AT40, 8/10/91, which has only 11 bulletless songs in its Top 40 - and only 3 in the Top 20. (And then I went to look up that chart and found that 5/11/91 is just as packed, also 11 bulletless songs.) Further evidence of just how insane that bullet wall was: "I'm Your Angel" gets pushed back one place despite gaining nearly 400 spins. It gets leapfrogged by 'N Sync and Brandy, who each gained over 500. (Though, it is worth noting that last week, just 7 spins separated Brandy from "I'm Your Angel", and this week, 'N Sync is ahead of it by just 10.) The biggest gainer on the entire chart, though, is the countdown's highest debut, "You Get What You Give". "Fire Escape" has to be one of the most baffling songs I've ever heard, with a lyric that's practically VH1 Awesomely Bad-worthy. "I'll be the rain/falling on your fire escape" - what does that even mean? How on earth does that translate as a metaphor? That first LDD, to the New Kids, perhaps should have gone after 'N Sync rather than after Monifah. By the way, this is the third time in a month that "Touch It" - of all songs - was a LDD lead-in! The joys (or not) of producing the show in a vacuum... Unusual to have multiple songs holding position for 3 or more weeks in the same countdown - though what may be more unusual is that of the four, only "The First Night" is at peak position. That Faith Hill singing at the office story? It's the exact same one Casey told just a few weeks before this. (Don't remember offhand which week it is...) "I'll Never Break Your Heart" would have something of an 80s-esque descent. A month ago (10/31), it reached #2. From there, it would go 2-4-8-13-18-27-33-off. ODD BULLET BEHAVIOR: The bullet battle royale explains any backward step below #25, but the only thing not covered by that is Edwin McCain going back up two places - "I'll Be" is down just -9 in spins this week (whereas Aerosmith is down nearly 600 and "Tearin' Up My Heart" is down over 400). The interesting thing about Eve 6 jumping over 98 Degrees this week? While that might seem off-brand for an emerging "boy band" scene of 1998-99, fact of the matter is - of the two groups, Eve 6 were the younger ones! The members of that band were all 19-20 at this time, whereas everyone in 98 were in their early-to-mid 20s. (Then again, "Inside Out" was also a song that had already been to #1 Alternative, and had that to ride on.)
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Post by Mike on Dec 1, 2020 21:02:38 GMT -5
OK, the audio has gone scratchy in and out here (particularly during "Beautiful Day" and "Walk Me Home", and in just the past minute), but that would have to be the show file.
Not sure how that'd be fixed without some top-level software/knowhow. (I'm not faulting Adam here - rather, it's probably the sort of audio thing he can only do so much with with what he has. And frankly, I've heard worse.)
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Post by Mike on Dec 1, 2020 23:47:50 GMT -5
Generally, late 2000/early 2001 is one of my favorite periods, as I'll run into more songs that bring back memories or else otherwise feel particularly nostalgic over. These songs would still be on a strictly-based R&R AT40: "Give Me Just One Night (Una Noche)" (33-40), "Who Let the Dogs Out" (27-31), "Come on Over (All I Want is You)" (20-24), and "Country Grammar" (19-21). All except 98 would be going recurrent off there over the next two weeks. Oddly enough, the countdown's sole dropper "Jumpin', Jumpin' " (not read by Casey) was kept on here a week longer than it was on R&R! And yes, the four songs in the countdown that wouldn't be in R&R - also the first four songs in the survey - were #s 41-44 on R&R (though not in corresponding order). Debuts would have been "E.I." (#37 there) and "Still on Your Side" (#32), with droppers being "Pass You By" (36-43) and Everclear's "Wonderful" (30-recurrent). Over the past 3 weeks in Shadoe Land, we've had glimpses of Boyz II Men at some of their highest points. This week: They're at their lowest (at basically their end, really). Is it just me, or did the chart switch result in some diminished hit power at this point? Six of the first seven songs in the survey didn't get out of the 30s, and just 17 songs would go Top 10, with the first of those not coming until #25. I cannot for the life of me fathom why they insisted on using this remix for "So in Love With Two" for its entire run. Was someone paying Premiere to do so? That's a bit of an odd structure-swap in Hour 2, giving #24 its own segment and then it's 23-22-21 put together. I don't think I'm going to bother pointing out odd LDD lead-in choices for this era anymore, as I'm finding they're much too numerous. The week's biggest spin gainer over on R&R is "It Wasn't Me", as one of two songs to gain over +1000 spins (the other is "Independent Women Part 1", about to leap to #1). The biggest mover on their chart is also "My Everything", with a very similar jump there (39-28), also the third-biggest spin gainer there (JUST under 1000, +998). "Independent Women" is also responsible for the only "odd bullet behavior" over in R&R this week, as it leaps 11-5 and pushes the Backstreet Boys and Samantha Mumba each back one notch, though each gain 100-and-change. I'm surprised that AT40 seems to have regularly played the (unedited) album version for "Faded". They do that on September 30 as well (probably also December 9, though I haven't listened to that in a while). It's plain that, at least through 2000, they'd blindly follow the R&R issue dates (not previous AT40, not any R&R-based countdown [CT40], NOTHING else at all) whenever they could, regardless of if that ever clashed with actual history. Maybe the most egregious example is the last one, from 1998 (2 years ago this week) - where #1 was "Jumper", but the R&R issue date would be 12/4, used for the countdown of 12/12, where "Lullaby" took over.
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Post by adam31 on Dec 2, 2020 7:52:49 GMT -5
Once again, fabulous write ups! Don't know where you are getting all this information! Always a great read, thanks!
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Post by Mike on Dec 2, 2020 19:30:37 GMT -5
Once again, fabulous write ups! Don't where you are getting all this information! Always a great read, thanks! Some, like the Boyz II Men anecdote, are just me paying attention. But the stuff that comes directly out of R&R - their back issues, like Billboard (at least for the relevant years), are available on World Radio History.
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Post by adam31 on Dec 8, 2020 11:39:33 GMT -5
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Post by Mike on Dec 8, 2020 13:05:53 GMT -5
Ah...actually, that's not the week of this countdown. It's the same "real world" week, but 12/5 was the chart that corresponds to today's countdown. Or is the "real world" week what you meant? Incidentally, the article's a bit short, but still cut in half (most R&R front page articles are like that, I've found). It continues on Page 12, but between the front page and Page 12 are also full-page ads for both the two AT20s and for Ryan assuming the helm at AT40.
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Post by adam31 on Dec 8, 2020 14:43:08 GMT -5
Ah...actually, that's not the week of this countdown. It's the same "real world" week, but 12/5 was the chart that corresponds to today's countdown. Or is the "real world" week what you meant? Incidentally, the article's a bit short, but still cut in half (most R&R front page articles are like that, I've found). It continues on Page 12, but between the front page and Page 12 are also full-page ads for both the two AT20s and for Ryan assuming the helm at AT40. Yeah I meant "real world" week, but didn't realize R&R charts not matching up, why would I think they wouldn't?
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Post by Mike on Dec 8, 2020 15:28:05 GMT -5
One other thing I'll point out is that the 12/12 chart would actually be skipped entirely - Casey's last CHR show on 1/3/04 used the chart from 12/19.
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Post by adam31 on Dec 8, 2020 18:13:02 GMT -5
One other thing I'll point out is that the 12/12 chart would actually be skipped entirely - Casey's last CHR show on 1/3/04 used the chart from 12/19. Wow, and I thought Billboard's chart manipulations were bad.
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Post by Mike on Dec 8, 2020 19:48:04 GMT -5
Wow, and I thought Billboard's chart manipulations were bad. That was the one and only time in all of Casey's time of counting down R&R (counting CT40 too, 1989-2003) that any R&R chart was skipped outright, though (excluding the 2000/2001 chart change back-and-forth). I can only assume the idea was that they'd use up the last R&R chart from 2003 to go with Casey's last weekly CHR show. Plus, since Ryan's tenure was beginning with a chart change, it's not like skipping a week would have meant that much.
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Post by Mike on Dec 8, 2020 23:44:02 GMT -5
This is one of the earliest weekly end dates in Casey's history - meaning, the week that had the last regular countdown before Year End time. Only 1992 had an earlier date, by one day - 12/12 was the last weekly Casey's Top 40 that year, though it led to an absurdly early 1993 (January 2!).
Speaking of 1992, that had other titles that might be a bit funny for Casey to read - and last night, I looked up a show that happened to have not one but two such songs in it. The show was 11/21, so one should be obvious: "Erotica". The other, kicks off that countdown at #40 - "Rump Shaker"!
That was Larry Morgan doing the opening and closing voice-overs, was it not? Makes me wonder why then he subsequently didn't start with AT40: The 70s & 80s until halfway through 2009. (Or...question: Has he been doing the voice-overs on the Hot AC shows as well?)
This is possibly the most hit-loaded countdown yet in this series, the first one to not have any songs in it that remained stranded in Hour 1 (not unless 12/6 had Hour 1 end at #30). Looking at 1999's chart, that one might come close for songs with recognition, but that also has two songs that stopped in the 30s ("I Believe in Love" and "Cowboy") - the lowest peaker here is "Powerless" (#30).
Both "The First Cut is the Deepest" and "God is a DJ" debuted on the R&R chart outright. Actually, with the spin threshold at #50 being a bit high and the gap between #40 and #50 being fairly narrow this week, going from below #50 to right into the countdown wouldn't be too difficult for a medium gainer (Sheryl, who the previous week only just missed the chart). That said, Pink, with +522, was among the week's 10 biggest spin gainers - pity the momentum didn't last with this one.
Meanwhile, of the droppers, both "Into You" and "Can't Hold Us Down" went recurrent in R&R. (But, of course, the chart change would put them right back...)
The number of songs fairly close together in the 40s and lower 30s is also what lets "Numb" glide in at #34 despite a spin gain of just under 200.
Staind were something of an island in the stream this week - over 500 spins separated them from #24, and another 500+ separated them from #22. Meanwhile, "Me Against the Music" was the lone outlier in what was otherwise a wall of bullets from #30 to #16.
The way those two combine goes like this: 22 through 16 (this includes Britney/Madonna) were in one pocket, with no real large gaps between any two there. Then, Staind at #23. Then, 26, 25, 24 were in one pocket, with a 200+ spin gap below #26. Then, 30, 29, 28, 27 were another pocket (that could also include the bulletless #31).
Speaking of "Me Against the Music"...gee, I don't know if I've heard or listened to that one since early 2004! (Or if so, not that much...)
Not one song either gains or loses four digits this week, though both "Me Against the Music" and "Stacy's Mom" lose over 900 spins apiece (-926 and -964, respectively).
The biggest spin gaps on the chart, meanwhile, can be found in the Top 5. And how: 1207 spins separate #5 from #4 (less than that separates #5 from #11) for the biggest gap, just over 1000 separate #3 and #2, and over 600 separate the Top 2.
Casey reading the "Rock" chart #1 is quite unusual - maybe the best way to describe that specific format is that it would be what the old Album-Oriented Rock format might be considered, in 2003. This, alongside separate formats of Alternative and Active Rock, with Active being louder, heavier, and more metal-oriented than Alternative. (Granted in 2003, Active and Alternative had a lot of overlap, but there were still some heavier bands such as Godsmack and Disturbed that Alternative didn't take to as strongly.) "Rock" might as well have been somewhere inbetween - though with that format essentially being the AC of the rock music side of things, turnover was absolutely abysmal. Looking at the #1s for that year, there were just five of them!
How's this for a crazy chart stat to close the show? "Hey Ya!" actually ascends to #1 on every single formal chart (which excludes the 2000-01 chart) that AT40 has counted down this week. Yes, this means they're the new #1 on Billboard's Hot 100, Hot 100 Airplay, and Mainstream Top 40 charts this week. It's the first one in this series to be showing the superfecta (which is a foursome), though both "Smooth" (11/6/99) and "Independent Women Part 1" (12/2/00) each missed that honor by one week* - however, neither of those would have been ascending to #1 on all four charts simultaneously. (1998's and 2002's #1s, at a minimum, didn't get there on the Hot 100, while 2001's, "I'm Real", is actually the first one to have completed the sweep by the time of its countdown date - however, J. Lo had already surrendered the Hot 100 and Hot 100 Airplay crowns to "Family Affair" by 11/17/01.)
And by "this series" I mean the WGXX airings of these shows, of course.
*"Smooth" and "Independent Women Part 1" were a week away from #1 on AT40/R&R on the respective dates, but those would be the songs to pull off the superfecta for those years. For the actual AT40 #1s those weeks - in 1999, Lou Bega didn't top the Hot 100, in 2000, Creed didn't top Hot 100 Airplay.
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Post by Mike on Dec 16, 2020 0:15:21 GMT -5
What a way to start! We get the song that spent the longest amount of time at #40 on AT40 (at least, I sincerely doubt anything from the Seacrest era has ever surpassed this...) - though it's through pure technicality. "Don't Say You Love Me" returns this week at #40, its second week there. The next two weeks, of course, are The Top 40 of 1999 and The Top 40 of the 1990s, and then we return with weekly charts - where M2M are still at #40! That, of course, adds up to FIVE non-consecutive weeks at chart bottom. BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE! An AT40 flashback...sort of. Seven years ago this week, back in 1992, on the chart that AT40 would be about to pick up - Billboard's Top 40/Mainstream chart - we also had a song on its way to spending five weeks at #40! Only, these were 5 consecutive weeks. The song with the dubious distinction of sitting there? "These Are Days" by 10,000 Maniacs, though we'd only ever hear the 5th and final week at #40 in an actual countdown. What a way to end the year! With M2M being a re-entry, this leaves only 1 debut this week. So of course that one little debut goes on to be the biggest hit of the entire following year! And while it wouldn't go recurrent off the chart for a long time, two others did this week. Since Casey didn't read them, those were: "I Do (Cherish You)" by 98 Degrees (LW: 28, 20 weeks on) and "Scar Tissue" by the Red Hot Chili Peppers (LW: 22, 19 weeks on). Incidentally - it's just 230 spins to get from #38 to #31 this week. Just a little less than that separates #38 from...#39! THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HMMM: "Little Black Backpack" sounded a little heavier than I remember - but then again, that's a song I haven't heard since 19-2000. THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO, HMMMMM... Apparently "Take a Picture" was intended as, among other things, a tribute to the song "Dad, I'm in Jail" by Was (Not Was) - or, so I read. "Dad, I'm in Jail" is from their album What Up, Dog? Guess what else is on that album? Here's a hint: We'll hear another choice cut from that album tomorrow. There's actually a bit more to the story over how "Exhale (Shoop Shoop)" was built around its "shoop"s: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhale_(Shoop_Shoop)The next several songs above #31 provide for a very difficult region of the chart, with multiple spin gaps of 200 or more between songs (over 400 between #30 and #29). #31 has just under 1700 spins, while #24 has 3200-some. If you think M2M's spending five weeks (including two frozen) at #40 is bonkers, how about "Girl on TV"? Also counting the frozen weeks, that spends SEVEN non-consecutive weeks at #27! This is also the 4th non-consecutive week at #25 for "Angels". The two frozen weeks would give that one six weeks total, but this week's chart is its last at #25. I'll have to look up that version of "The Rockafeller Skank" shortly after this - that sounded mostly like its radio edit, except for that fake-out toward the end where it sounds like it's going to divert into the video version (but doesn't). MORE LONG PEAKERS: "Good Intentions". In R&R, that spent 5 consecutive weeks at #14 - but, that straddled the 1995-96 holiday break. Counting the frozen weeks, that'd be 7 weeks; naturally, this applies to CT40 as well. It should be no surprise that "Blue" was also this week's biggest spin gainer, the only one to gain four digits (+1540). Meanwhile, the biggest spin gap on the entire chart is up in the Top 5 - over 1000 spins separate #5 and #4. ODD BULLET BEHAVIOR: Just one song this week, "Waiting For Tonight", which goes back 2-4 with the second-smallest bullet in the entire countdown (+64). Only the re-entering M2M had a smaller gain this week, +55. Meanwhile, Savage Garden and Brian McKnight, who both passed Jennifer, are this week's 3rd and 8th-biggest gainers (+772 and +497, respectively). Casey referred to "Back at One" has Brian McKnight's biggest hit - and while it was his biggest hit entirely on his own, either he or the show's staff forgot about the #1 hit duet with Vanessa Williams, "Love Is". They also jumped the gun a bit with "Sacrifice" - that wasn't even on the Hot 100 yet 10 years ago this week. It didn't debut there until 1/13/90, not reaching either AT40 or CT40 until 4 weeks after that. Something Casey didn't mention when he talked about Santana owing his renewed success to Clive Davis - while Clive was president of Arista Records at this point, he was also president of Columbia Records, Santana's label during his 70s and early 80s heyday, as well. So it's no wonder that Clive signed him up again!
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Post by Mike on Dec 16, 2020 1:04:59 GMT -5
I'll have to look up that version of "The Rockafeller Skank" shortly after this - that sounded mostly like its radio edit, except for that fake-out toward the end where it sounds like it's going to divert into the video version (but doesn't). Wasn't able to find it on YouTube. On Discogs there's three promo releases - these would have been for stations to use - that each contain a few edits. This one runs 3:27 and is the regular radio edit that likely saw quite a bit of play back in 1999/2000, the one in the countdown is roughly 4 minutes. Two different promo edits each run that length. It's also not the one that's called the Short Edit, that's the one that was used in the video.
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Post by laura on Dec 16, 2020 1:40:29 GMT -5
I actually remember that M2M song fondly well. The thing is on AT40 they played the version released on the Pokemon soundtrack, which had a slight lyrical change for some reason. The single version went "you said you loved me" , while the album version went "you started kissing me". To quote the next line, what's that about?
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Post by Mike on Dec 29, 2020 20:44:02 GMT -5
Phew...this took so long because I did end up starting with the show this morning, only to have to end up coming back to it later. Unless something crazy happens, the same shouldn't happen with Shadoe tomorrow. This, incidentally, marks the fifth CT40 year-end countdown I've heard this year (and with this being December 29, it'll obviously be the last). The others are 1989-92. And this one kicks off with two songs I've never heard before: "Gimme Some Love" and "Too Gone, Too Long". "When You're Gone", on the other hand, turned up as an America's Top Hit on AT40 in early 1999. Incidentally, those two are just the first two of several 1997 songs I'm hearing for the first time here. And this show is also the first Casey's Top 40 I've heard with this theme package. The survey period, as stated in R&R, covers their charts from December 13, 1996 to December 5, 1997 - these are reflected in the CT40 countdowns of December 21, 1996 to December 13, 1997. "Pony" and "Mo Money Mo Problems" are among this era's versions of "Object of My Desire" - low peakers with plenty enough weeks to rank. Ginuwine spent 15 weeks in the countdown (two frozen) despite only reaching #32, while B.I.G. spent 14 weeks in and reached #30 (as of the survey period - its sole week at #29 was December 20). "Breaking All the Rules", in fact, was not still climbing the weekly survey - it peaked at #15 on the last week of the survey period. The year-end countdown was probably produced before the December 20 show. "Love You Down" and "As Long As You Love Me", however, would both peak in 1998. One of the Blackout All-Stars, Tito Nieves - who sings the song - would later re-record "I Like It" solo and release it on his album I Like it Like That; this version also turned up on Jock Jams Volume 3, released later that year. That fanfare for the Casey's Biggest Hits is the same as it would be during the later part of his second AT40 run...anyone know about when it surfaced there? Did it start in 2001 at the same the R&D jingle was brought over for LDDs, or at a different time? Incidentally, while the X Years Ago This Week is correct for each of them, Casey was off for the ones he mentioned the exact year for. For example, he said 1986 for "It's Only Love" - which, while yes that did peak in early '86, he's saying that was a big hit 12 years ago this week...for a 1997 year-end countdown, 12 years ago should be 1985 rather than 1986, yes? AT40's 1998 year-end countdown would have a different variation of this same problem, with...for example, Casey said 8 Years Ago This Week for "Free Fallin' ", when that should've been 9 Years Ago This Week. (Other years quite likely also had that problem, but 1998's is the only one I know for sure.) Also: "Because the Night" would be re-used as an America's Top Hit in 1998, but with a different story. MORE CLERICAL ERRORS INVOLVING TONI BRAXTON YEAR-END RANKINGS: Okay, we all know about "He Wasn't Man Enough" mistakenly being left off AT40's 2000 year-end chart. But, this one concerns "You're Makin' Me High". See, that spent just one week on the R&R chart within the survey period - which is bad enough*. But, even that one week is a week where it shouldn't have even been on the chart! On 12/13/96 (the 12/21 CT40), it slid 20-26 in its 30th week on the R&R chart. Under their rules, since it had spent over 26 weeks on the chart and fell below #25, that should have meant that instead of being #26, it would've been removed and sent recurrent. And yet for whatever reason, it wasn't. So, this one erroneous week allowed all of its recurrent airplay to get counted for the year - see Footnote, below - and that's why it's on the chart at all. "Butterfly Kisses" will always be one of the most surprising CHR hits to me. Bob Carlisle is a Contemporary Christian singer, and (secular) AC also makes sense...but CHR? Duration of the 129 consecutive weeks of Hootie & The Blowfish's run: October 15, 1994 through March 29, 1997. As it happens, when Hootie arrived in 1994, "Hold My Hand" came in at #38. The two songs below them that week would represent the final Top 40 hits for their own respective superstar bands - The Rolling Stones came in at #40 that week with "Out of Tears", Huey Lewis & The News were #39 with "But It's Alright". For the latter, that was also their final week in the countdown, while the Stones were also debuting. BUT LITTLE DOES ANYONE KNOW THAT... another act who place two of their own hits in this year's survey would go on to surpass that string, and then some! Talking about: The Backstreet Boys. From "Quit Playing Games (With My Heart)" in 1997 through "The One" in 2000, that would amass a string of 9 consecutive Top 40 hits lasting a combined 169 consecutive weeks on the chart, from May 31, 1997 through August 19, 2000. (And on another note: "Quit Playing Games" would begin its run at #40, and "The One" would end its run at #40.) Comparing these two strings to Billboard's Mainstream chart...Hootie amass the exact same 128-week run there, only it both begins and ends two weeks later than on CT40. BSB, meanwhile, got 3 less weeks on Billboard but still got an intact consecutive string (166 weeks, 6/7/97 through 8/5/00). By the way, apparently "I Go Blind" was also originally a B-side to "Hold My Hand" when "Hand" was released. Yikes...did they speed up Lindsey Buckingham's "Trouble", or just up the pitch quite a bit? Either way:
*Footnote: R&R, and Mediabase, have always counted all of a song's airplay towards its year-end chart rankings (R&R, at least, did so once they started using monitored airplay - I don't know for sure if they also did during the playlist era), regardless of where the song ranked from week to week - be it well below the chart or if the song spent most of the year designated as a recurrent. Billboard, on the other hand, is strict with their airplay counting - only airplay amounts that come from weeks where the song is on the chart get counted, nothing before it debuts or after it gets sent recurrent gets included.
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Post by adam31 on Dec 30, 2020 8:13:44 GMT -5
Phew...this took so long because I did end up starting with the show this morning, only to have to end up coming back to it later. Unless something crazy happens, the same shouldn't happen with Shadoe tomorrow. I thought you usually caught the 2nd airing anyway lolIncidentally, those two are just the first two of several 1997 songs I'm hearing for the first time here. And this show is also the first Casey's Top 40 I've heard with this theme package. Yeah I dug these themes, definitely sounds different that the earlier CT40 themes and jingles I have heard (I'm talking 1989-90)"Pony" and "Mo Money Mo Problems" are among this era's versions of "Object of My Desire" - low peakers with plenty enough weeks to rank. Ginuwine spent 15 weeks in the countdown (two frozen) despite only reaching #32, while B.I.G. spent 14 weeks in and reached #30 (as of the survey period - its sole week at #29 was December 20). I'm sure B.I.G. is glad he got in while he couldThat fanfare for the Casey's Biggest Hits is the same as it would be during the later part of his second AT40 run...anyone know about when it surfaced there? Did it start in 2001 at the same the R&D jingle was brought over for LDDs, or at a different time? I don't think he used "Casey's Biggest Hits" did he? I thought it was "America's Top Hits" during the 2nd run of AT40."Butterfly Kisses" will always be one of the most surprising CHR hits to me. Bob Carlisle is a Contemporary Christian singer, and (secular) AC also makes sense...but CHR? Hey Amy Grant and Michael W Smith both did that with ballads so why not Bob? That song touched everyone that year, (tears me up!) so really not surprising. CCrap wasn't deeply entrenched in the Top 40 yet and Pop had it's second coming after the grunge years.Duration of the 129 consecutive weeks of Hootie & The Blowfish's run: October 15, 1994 through March 29, 1997. As it happens, when Hootie arrived in 1994, "Hold My Hand" came in at #38. The two songs below them that week would represent the final Top 40 hits for their own respective superstar bands - The Rolling Stones came in at #40 that week with "Out of Tears", Huey Lewis & The News were #39 with "But It's Alright". For the latter, that was also their final week in the countdown, while the Stones were also debuting. BUT LITTLE DOES ANYONE KNOW THAT... another act who place two of their own hits in this year's survey would go on to surpass that string, and then some! Talking about: The Backstreet Boys. From "Quit Playing Games (With My Heart)" in 1997 through "The One" in 2000, that would amass a string of 9 consecutive Top 40 hits lasting a combined 169 consecutive weeks on the chart, from May 31, 1997 through August 19, 2000. (And on another note: "Quit Playing Games" would begin its run at #40, and "The One" would end its run at #40.) Comparing these two strings to Billboard's Mainstream chart...Hootie amass the exact same 128-week run there, only it both begins and ends two weeks later than on CT40. BSB, meanwhile, got 3 less weeks on Billboard but still got an intact consecutive string (166 weeks, 6/7/97 through 8/5/00). By the way, apparently "I Go Blind" was also originally a B-side to "Hold My Hand" when "Hand" was released. Amazing facts there, great for us chart nerds lol Yikes...did they speed up Lindsey Buckingham's "Trouble", or just up the pitch quite a bit? Either way: Yes and I'm surprised this tune gets played in a 1997 show anyway.
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Post by Mike on Dec 30, 2020 12:29:44 GMT -5
Phew...this took so long because I did end up starting with the show this morning, only to have to end up coming back to it later. Unless something crazy happens, the same shouldn't happen with Shadoe tomorrow. I thought you usually caught the 2nd airing anyway lolMy sleeping pattern tends to shift - I've gone from waking up a bit later and staying up later to waking up earlier and going to bed earlier. Hence, me catching the morning airings of late. Incidentally - I woke up around 6:30 this morning...to a few inches of snow on the ground. So that took time to deal with, especially as a solo act and with having to make a run clear across town at 9:00 (with the driveway only half-done). Basically, I was able to hit start when 1992 started, and little else. So I'll be catching that on a delay of sorts, too.
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Post by Mike on Dec 30, 2020 12:30:23 GMT -5
"Pony" and "Mo Money Mo Problems" are among this era's versions of "Object of My Desire" - low peakers with plenty enough weeks to rank. Ginuwine spent 15 weeks in the countdown (two frozen) despite only reaching #32, while B.I.G. spent 14 weeks in and reached #30 (as of the survey period - its sole week at #29 was December 20). I'm sure B.I.G. is glad he got in while he couldWell, "Mo Money Mo Problems" was also #92 for 1998 as well. Its run wasn't cut perfectly in half by the survey period dividing line, but for 1998 it would've had the benefit of all its recurrent play in addition to what it got while it was on the chart. That fanfare for the Casey's Biggest Hits is the same as it would be during the later part of his second AT40 run...anyone know about when it surfaced there? Did it start in 2001 at the same the R&D jingle was brought over for LDDs, or at a different time? I don't think he used "Casey's Biggest Hits" did he? I thought it was "America's Top Hits" during the 2nd run of AT40.Yeah...what I meant to say was this fanfare that was used for Casey's Biggest Hits here, when did that get imported to use for the America's Top Hits in AT40. I double-checked 2/3/2001 just now and that has the same fanfare, so I'm guessing that was also brought over at the same time as the R&D jingle for the LDDs. (2001 began with that in place.) Duration of the 129 consecutive weeks of Hootie & The Blowfish's run: October 15, 1994 through March 29, 1997. As it happens, when Hootie arrived in 1994, "Hold My Hand" came in at #38. The two songs below them that week would represent the final Top 40 hits for their own respective superstar bands - The Rolling Stones came in at #40 that week with "Out of Tears", Huey Lewis & The News were #39 with "But It's Alright". For the latter, that was also their final week in the countdown, while the Stones were also debuting. BUT LITTLE DOES ANYONE KNOW THAT... another act who place two of their own hits in this year's survey would go on to surpass that string, and then some! Talking about: The Backstreet Boys. From "Quit Playing Games (With My Heart)" in 1997 through "The One" in 2000, that would amass a string of 9 consecutive Top 40 hits lasting a combined 169 consecutive weeks on the chart, from May 31, 1997 through August 19, 2000. (And on another note: "Quit Playing Games" would begin its run at #40, and "The One" would end its run at #40.) Comparing these two strings to Billboard's Mainstream chart...Hootie amass the exact same 128-week run there, only it both begins and ends two weeks later than on CT40. BSB, meanwhile, got 3 less weeks on Billboard but still got an intact consecutive string (166 weeks, 6/7/97 through 8/5/00). By the way, apparently "I Go Blind" was also originally a B-side to "Hold My Hand" when "Hand" was released. Amazing facts there, great for us chart nerds lol It helped that I'd recently decided to check on BSB's runs with their hits before this aired, so that was/is still fresh in my mind. (It wasn't this show that made me decide to check, I don't really know why I did...I just did. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯) Yikes...did they speed up Lindsey Buckingham's "Trouble", or just up the pitch quite a bit? Either way: Yes and I'm surprised this tune gets played in a 1997 show anyway.Heh! Check out this line up of America's Top Hits from late in 2002: charismusicgroup.com/AT20%20Hot%20AC/AT20%20HAC%202002-1214.pdfThe newest song in that bunch is 1986/7's "Everybody Have Fun Tonight"! (Granted, that cue sheet is from the Hot AC show, but I assume the Top Hits were the same for all three shows?)
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Post by adam31 on Jan 5, 2021 10:40:20 GMT -5
Kinda funny to hear Casey say the #18 song by Meredith Brooks. He had no problem saying that but avoided the title of that George Michael song from 1987 like the plague lol.
Casey also made sure to bring it up in the promo too.
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Post by Mike on Jan 5, 2021 10:46:36 GMT -5
Well it looks like I'll have to catch both airings on this one - I had to run out for a bit but left it running, and figured no problem, I could just let it run until it ends, then play it back right after. Nope - apparently I must have been disconnected at some point, because I later noticed that the station had stopped.
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