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Post by adam31 on Feb 2, 2021 13:48:51 GMT -5
This week is a good example of how you can tell they switched to largely relying on actual historical AT40 data for the X Years Ago This Week #1 songs - "Love Rollercoaster" didn't get there in R&R (stopped at #3), "That's What Friends Are For" did but had fallen to #4 in their 1/31/86 issue (though it'd still be #1 on Rick's countdown for 2/1), and "The First Time" (way to spoil tomorrow's Shadoe, by the way) was there in R&R's 2/1/91 issue but was still a week away in the R&R-based countdowns. Thank goodness at some point they finally made Casey NOT look like a hypocrite, making him say things that contradicted what he said in the 80s. Too bad, Ryan is back to only using R&R facts, which does not solidify AT40 historyThis week may contain two potential segues if Adam picks 1992 for Shadoe next week: 1) The America's Top Hits provide a transition of sorts, including "Ordinary World" from last week's 1993, and "I'm Too Sexy" would be in 1992. 2) A "broken arrow" metaphor - Ricky Martin sings about it in "Nobody Wants to Be Lonely", while a 1992 show would contain Rod Stewart's "Broken Arrow". Hmm, nice way to tie everything together!It's kind of interesting to me that apparently, "hemorrhage" was considered "too mature" to say - I have only one other show from this era already, 4/7/01, where the song drops out, and Casey just says "In My Hands" that week too. Speaking of "too mature" - anyone else wince at "Liquid Dreams" coming right after "Butterfly Kisses" (nevermind wincing at "Liquid Dreams" in general)? Still wincing, wow couldn't they have put that LDD somewhere else?
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Post by Mike on Feb 2, 2021 14:17:47 GMT -5
Thoughts from the show Dexter WHO & how the F did it make Top 40 Let me guess Lee Ann Womack's daughters went on to dance to Hanna Montana & twerk in hip-hop videos That Nick Lachey /Jessica Simpson "Juicy Gossip" would've had Seacrest JO'ing & releasing a big nut over it Even though it's 1 of his lesser hits E.I. still kicks it Being an ex-cheerleader I bet Mya had a train or 2 So a bad or drunk driver could've saved us years of repetitive Matchbox Twenty / Rob Thomas songs Creed STILL sucks Still prefer Caught Butt Naked Bangin' On The Bathroom Floor over the clean edit of Shaggy Destiny's Child - O-VER-RA-TED Longtime WBME/WGXX listeners think of Don & Mike when they hear the recently passed Larry King This not a good morning for you or something?
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Post by Mike on Feb 2, 2021 14:30:07 GMT -5
*Lee Ann Womack’s “I Hope You Dance” moves up 2 to #38 after debuting at #40 the previous week. Heard on another show that because of confusion between her and LeAnn Rimes (fellow country singer with the same name), people suggested Womack change her first name. Also note that it is the original version featuring Sons of the Desert (who were not mentioned) and not the “pop version” that replaces them with additional female backup singers. Note what I said on the previous page: Lee Ann Womack's record label, MCA Nashville, deceptively labelled the versions of "I Hope You Dance" that would be available for stations to play - the version we hear in the countdown is listed simply as the Radio Edit, even though it's clearly remixed when compared to the original song. Meanwhile, the version that gets played on AC - the one that removes the Sons of the Desert and replaces them with another female voice - is labelled the Pop Mix, even though I never ever heard it on actual Pop radio. The one I heard on my station is the one we hear in this show. Effectively, it may have been labelled as a "pop" mix, but in practice, that's not quite how it played out - the Pop Mix is instead really the AC Mix. *Mikaila's “So In Love with Two” falls 7 to #33 (and would dip out the next week). I’m sure most of us will miss the Hex Hector remix for the next 8 months. It’s a good remix but honestly, I’m sure it’ll still get the fanfare if they just instead used the regular version seeing as a lot of their smaller affiliates played that version opposed to the remixed version (which I bet it was intended for Rhythmic CHR stations but Mainstream CHR stations in major media markets picked it up, just like what I mentioned last week on a follow up post with laura regarding “Take Me There”). *raises hand* I mean technically, I had no affiliate except for possibly the fringe-reaching WWCK (fringe meaning I can pick them up in the house with an antenna and if the radio's in the right spot), but I do live in a small enough market that would qualify. These shows are the only place I've ever heard the remix. I originally heard that it was because Kasem had trouble saying the word “Hemorrhage” but never knew it was considered “too mature” considering Dees says the complete title. In truth, on this one you shouldn't take my word as gospel - I just figured that would've been the reason since I can't really think of another. Having trouble saying the word would do it, though. *An ad from the International Star Registry states that you could have a star named after someone for $48 in 2001. Wonder if this is still the case today 20 years later. Probably, albeit probably at a higher price than in 2001. Although, I once had an astronomy professor in college who said that this was pretty much a scam in that the "named" stars would be so far away that we'd be lucky to actually see them even with a telescope. *Lenny Kravitz’ “Again” moves up 3 to #4. Will Kravitz get his first #1 or will the AT40 weird unpublished chart say “NOPE!!!!”? We will see. One of two #1 events that are unique to this period - those that heard WPNC's picks for summer shows from this Casey run last summer got to hear the other.
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Post by adam31 on Feb 2, 2021 14:54:19 GMT -5
I guess the #1 event you are referring to is Destiny's Child remaining at #1 the next week, giving them 10 straight in total, extending their record at the time for Girl Groups.
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Post by Mike on Feb 2, 2021 15:38:44 GMT -5
I guess the #1 event you are referring to is Destiny's Child remaining at #1 the next week, giving them 10 straight in total, extending their record at the time for Girl Groups. Right group, wrong song. Remember, WPNC played the show where it happened.
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Post by saltyhylian on Feb 2, 2021 16:05:28 GMT -5
Also, I can’t be the only one that cringed on that Tampax ad? I can’t unhear it now especially that one during the first hour......
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Post by at40fansince1984 on Feb 2, 2021 19:32:44 GMT -5
That was just a bunch of joke comments & yes I did like other songs than Nelly. I liked Shaggy, Outkast, Ja Rule, R. Kelly, KC & Jojo & sadly the song that fell off Ludacris. I was still shocked the LDD was Aerosmith's Angel & not that dreadful Sara MacLaughlin song.
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Post by tokyoguy2021 on Feb 4, 2021 22:54:53 GMT -5
Does anybody know? i got this pictures card as a gift from a friend 10 years ago. i do not know if this is a printed signature or casey's autogCraph. please let me know. Regards.
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Post by at40fansince1984 on Feb 4, 2021 23:22:01 GMT -5
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Post by tokyoguy2021 on Feb 5, 2021 0:55:38 GMT -5
Thank you for telling me. i did not know it was sold at e-bay.
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Post by laura on Feb 5, 2021 16:14:01 GMT -5
I'm listening to SXM's Pop2K countdown from last weekend, which also featured 2001, the same date as the AT40 show this past Tuesday. Interestingly, the top 3 ("He Loves U Not", "It Wasn't Me", and "Independent Women Part 1") were the same on both the Hot 100 and the weird chart AT40 used at the time. They also didn't play "I Wish", which was at #20 that week, because R. Kelly was purged from their playlists a couple years ago. A couple of other songs, "Most Girls", "This I Promise You", and "Stronger" were still in Billboard's top 40 that week too despite being long gone on AT40's chart by then, while "Put It On Me" and "Stutter" hadn't charted on AT40 yet. Then there's "Danger (Been So Long)" by Mystikal and "I Just Wanna Love You" by Jay-Z, which didn't make AT40 and probably not even on the official R&R chart either.
OK disregard most of what I said because they used 1/27/01 on SXM.
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Post by saltyhylian on Feb 5, 2021 16:35:44 GMT -5
I'm listening to SXM's Pop2K countdown from last weekend, which also featured 2001, the same date as the AT40 show this past Tuesday. Interestingly, the top 3 ("He Loves U Not", "It Wasn't Me", and "Independent Women Part 1") were the same on both the Hot 100 and the weird chart AT40 used at the time. They also didn't play "I Wish", which was at #20 that week, because R. Kelly was purged from their playlists a couple years ago. A couple of other songs, "Most Girls", "This I Promise You", and "Stronger" were still in Billboard's top 40 that week too despite being long gone on AT40's chart by then, while "Put It On Me" and "Stutter" hadn't charted on AT40 yet. Then there's "Danger (Been So Long)" by Mystikal and "I Just Wanna Love You" by Jay-Z, which didn't make AT40 and probably not even on the official R&R chart either. “I Just Wanna Love You” was on the R&R pop chart (entered and peaked at #49). Very interesting though....it reminds me when Dees would use songs outside the top 40 to replace songs his affiliates didn’t want (e.g. Mystikal’s “Shake It Fast” replaced by Joy Enriquez’ “Tell Me How You Feel”).
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Post by Mike on Feb 5, 2021 18:05:42 GMT -5
I'm listening to SXM's Pop2K countdown from last weekend, which also featured 2001, the same date as the AT40 show this past Tuesday. Interestingly, the top 3 ("He Loves U Not", "It Wasn't Me", and "Independent Women Part 1") were the same on both the Hot 100 and the weird chart AT40 used at the time. They also didn't play "I Wish", which was at #20 that week, because R. Kelly was purged from their playlists a couple years ago. A couple of other songs, "Most Girls", "This I Promise You", and "Stronger" were still in Billboard's top 40 that week too despite being long gone on AT40's chart by then, while "Put It On Me" and "Stutter" hadn't charted on AT40 yet. Then there's "Danger (Been So Long)" by Mystikal and "I Just Wanna Love You" by Jay-Z, which didn't make AT40 and probably not even on the official R&R chart either. OK disregard most of what I said because they used 1/27/01 on SXM. "Danger" was read as #1 on the Urban chart - although, that doesn't line up exactly with R&R, either. (That was #1 in R&R's 1/19/01 issue, which normally would carry over to the 1/27 countdown, not 2/3 - and it was #1 there for only the one week.) Had they been using the direct R&R chart at this point... - "Most Girls" would have fallen off on 2/3 (headed to Recurrent Land).
- "This I Promise You" would have stepped down 16-18, with one more week still to go.
- "Stronger" would have slid 23-29, also with one more week still to go in the Top 40.
- And neither Joe nor Ja Rule would have even been on the chart yet (not even Top 50).
- "I Just Wanna Love U (Give it 2 Me)" spent 5 weeks on the R&R chart (not counting holiday break) - it went 49-49-50-off-50-50-off. This would have been the week it returned at #50.
Worth noting that Dream-Shaggy-Destiny's Child were in that order from 1/13 to 1/27 on the Hot 100. But 2/3, of course, would not have matched, as Shaggy hit #1 that week, while Dream slid 3-7. Jumping 7-3, meanwhile, was "Ms. Jackson". However, had AT40 been using R&R directly, then 1/27 would have matched that week.
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Post by saltyhylian on Feb 6, 2021 20:39:14 GMT -5
Probably, albeit probably at a higher price than in 2001. Although, I once had an astronomy professor in college who said that this was pretty much a scam in that the "named" stars would be so far away that we'd be lucky to actually see them even with a telescope. . Just checked, that’s still a thing as of 2021 and at a lower price too ($20). That professor was pretty much right too, you just get a certificate and jewelry with that “named star”. Also found out on their FAQ that only the International Astronomical Union has the right to actually name stars and not the ISR themselves. Never thought Rocky Mosele was a snake oil salesman on radio and would advertise on AT40.
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Post by at40fansince1984 on Feb 9, 2021 11:56:00 GMT -5
I bet some DJ's added some sound effects & had fun with that Hallmark Teddy Bear with the zipper ad.
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Post by adam31 on Feb 9, 2021 12:12:13 GMT -5
Speaking of ads, wasn't sure for a minute if this AT40 was from 2003 or 2021 with all the Purell ads!
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Post by saltyhylian on Feb 9, 2021 13:14:01 GMT -5
Insight from this week: *No America’s Top Hits filler....I mean segments this week! Must be another early version. *5 debuts this week, 75% of them are newcomers! *Think Purell will get some sales in this week thanks to us and Kasem? Because one little squirt kills germs! *Mario’s “C’mon” moves up 1 to #37, after debuting the previous week at #38. This was during his teen years, a follow up to his cover of Biz Markie’s “Just a Friend” and his last Top 40 track before “Let Me Love You”. *Mariah Carey’s “Through the Rain”, one of the week’s droppers, was a #1 track in Spain. *Amanda Perez’ “Angel” debuts at #33. It would be her first and only appearance on the chart, as her second track, “I Pray” only got up to #42 on R&R’s pop chart, over a year later. *Kasem tells a piece of Italian engineer Guglielmo Marconi, who invented a marvelous device we all use daily: the radio. *Craig David’s “Hidden Agenda” moves up 9 at #31, after debuting the previous week at #40. It would also tie Eminem’s “Superman” (#25) for the biggest mover. *The highest debut is a successful homemade country hip-hop song by 96.7 KISS-FM DJ Billy The Kidd (under the name DF DUB) named “Country Girl” at #29. *“Landslide” (#24) was the Dixie Chicks’ first and only track on the pop chart. This was also the Sheryl Crow-produced version which is pretty hard to find outside YouTube. *Kasem tells a piece about the history of Belgium, including how multiple countries tried to claim the kingdom. *Russian duo T.A.T.U.’s “All The Things She Said” moves up 2 to #15. Hardly remember this one but decent track. *Speaking of Sheryl Crow, her duet with Kid Rock, “Picture”, moves up 1 to #12. *Jay-Z’s “03 Bonnie & Clyde” reaches it’s peak to #6, his first Top 10 (thanks to his future wifey). Kasem would not use the “03” part until much later. *Nivea’s “Don’t Mess With My Man” also reached it’s peak at #4. Nivea was the artist featured in Mystikal’s “Danger (Been So Long)” which appeared on that countdown laura mentioned last week. *Small spoiler/segue for that next week’s chart: One of the debuts for that chart would be the first of three tracks that year with the same title (hint: another word for “respiration”). One of them would join the “3rd Time’s a Charm Club”. This one did not last long.
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Post by Mike on Feb 9, 2021 13:48:39 GMT -5
ODD BULLET BEHAVIOR: We kick off the countdown with the first one, "Inside Out". Both that and "Something" step backward while clinging to tiny bullets (both gaining less than 100 spins each). In Lasgo's case, they also peaked on the chart last week. Meanwhile, "Your Body is a Wonderland" goes back up two notches despite losing 72 spins. Both "Gossip Folks" and "Angel" debuted on the entire R&R chart this week. The latter only barely missed debuting last week by just 30 spins. "James Dean (I Wanna Know)" came and went VERY quickly - it debuted on the entire chart at #40, right after the two-week holiday break (for AT40, this would be reflected on 1/18), and then just 5 weeks after that...it's completely off the chart! Only slightly slower, would be "Hidden Agenda", despite tying for this week's Biggest Move. It would go just 3 notches higher and fall off the entire chart just 7 weeks after this. "Hidden Agenda" was also not even among the 10 biggest spin gainers this week, while "Superman" was - that was tied for a VERY close second with "All I Have" (both gained +1042). The week's biggest spin gainer was "Bump, Bump, Bump" with +1047. J. Lo and Eminem would also have the week's two biggest spin losers - "Jenny From the Block" lost -1513 and "Lose Yourself" lost -1317. There was also a third four-digit spin loser, as "Work It" lost -1087. Why yes, "I Turn to You" was a LDD from the last show we heard from this period (late 02-to-early 03). Incidentally, "kohai" and "senpai" in that LDD here do translate as "junior" and "senior" respectively. Talk about your 180s, though...the LDD talks about a professor-student working relationship, and comes right after a murder ballad about a school shooting! (To say nothing of the clash in mood with "Country Girl" coming right after...!) Speaking of which: DF Dub may have been born in Detroit, but he both was and still is (!) a DJ at KHKS in Dallas. Depending on what shows get picked as the year goes on, he may not be the last radio station DJ we hear with a countdown song this year - though the other won't be nearly as cringeworthy. The chart was definitely stilted this week - no two songs are even 100 spins apart, up to #29. Then the 20s get difficult: It's over 300 spins to #28, over 100 to #27, 151 to #26, over 300 to #25, over 100 to #24. 24-21 are all close together, then #21 and #20 are almost 500 spins apart. 20-17 are fairly close together, then it's over 300 spins to #16 and another almost 700 spins to #15. 15 and 14 are just 2 spins apart, then it's another 700+ to #13. Then it settles back down for a while, except for over 200 spins between #11 and #10, and just over 100 between #6 and #5. Then, the top 5: 999 spins between #5 and #4, over 800 between #4 and #3, and the chart's biggest divide - almost 1400 spins between #3 and #2! The Top 2, however, aren't too far apart - just over 100 spins. But don't take my word for it... worldradiohistory.com/Archive-RandR/2000s/2003/RR-2003-01-31.pdf#page=30MAKE UP YOUR MINDS, GUYS: We go from an AT40-only stat with "Africa" hitting #1 20 years ago this week, to a CT40-only stat with "Deeper and Deeper" hitting #1 10 years ago this week. NOW, THAT'S TIMING: Casey tells a story of how Missy Elliott "worked it" to lose 50 pounds, and right after that song...is a weight loss ad! COUNTDOWN SYMMETRY: The stats for "Your Body is a Wonderland" - it is #16 this week, was #18 last week, this is its 16th week in the countdown, its 18th week on the R&R chart (counting the two-week break), and it peaked...at #16! While the sentiment of "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" may...or may not...still resonate today, the Madden brothers certainly have opted for the "dark side", as it were - Joel's been married to Nicole Richie for a decade (yes, it's been that long), Benji's been married to Cameron Diaz for six years now. How much more "rich and famous" can you get? ANOTHER "SIX DEGREES OF SEPARATION": Though it's not quite six. "'03 Bonnie & Clyde" would prompt a dispute from Toni Braxton, as she accused Jay-Z of stealing the idea of sampling 2Pac's "Me and My Girlfriend" (it's sampled in Bonnie & Clyde, Toni also sampled it for her own song "Me & My Boyfriend"). Her husband, at that time, was Keri Lewis, who had been the keyboardist for the group Mint Condition, who we'll hear in tomorrow's 1992 show. This is the first show I've heard from this era where Casey's read the week's #1 album. And yes, it was taken from the February 8, 2003 Billboard chart. Justin Timberlake may have said that the video for "Cry Me a River" was his way of "using the media" for how they portrayed his love life...but let's face it, both the video and the song itself were HIS way of "using" his relationship - or should I say, former relationship - with Britney Spears. "Cry me a river", indeed...
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Post by Mike on Feb 9, 2021 13:54:06 GMT -5
*No America’s Top Hits filler....I mean segments this week! Must be another early version. I don't think so...this week had Ed McMann as opening and closing announcer, whereas 1999 two weeks ago had no one. Which leaves: Either this copy just didn't have them or they were cut for this airing.
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Post by adam31 on Feb 9, 2021 16:27:47 GMT -5
*No America’s Top Hits filler....I mean segments this week! Must be another early version. I don't think so...this week had Ed McMann as opening and closing announcer, whereas 1999 two weeks ago had no one. Which leaves: Either this copy just didn't have them or they were cut for this airing. I would never cut "ATH", my copy just didn't contain them
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Post by Mike on Feb 9, 2021 18:37:44 GMT -5
my copy just didn't contain them
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Post by at40fansince1984 on Feb 9, 2021 22:52:17 GMT -5
For a few years I had the DF Dub segment from this show that I found on Soundcloud. If I remember right he artist himself had posted it as a tribute to Casey after he'd passed. Also with all the hand sanitizer ads I thought is this 2021 or 2003 but then noticing most of the music is better so no it CAN'T be 2021.
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Post by saltyhylian on Feb 10, 2021 11:16:26 GMT -5
Forgot to mention this yesterday: Dixie Chicks’ “Landslide” was a cover version of the 1975 Fleetwood Mac song. Am I the only one that prefers the Dixie Chicks’ version over the Fleetwood Mac original? (And yes, I know they’re just called “The Chicks” now but I personally hate that generic name so I still call them “Dixie Chicks” )
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Post by Jeff Michaels on Feb 10, 2021 12:06:45 GMT -5
Yeah I'm also sick of the homogenizing of names. They'll Always Forever be the Dixie Chicks as far as I'm concerned. And I prefer the Dixie Chicks version better than the Fleetwood Mac original.
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Post by at40fansince1984 on Feb 10, 2021 12:47:29 GMT -5
Yeah I'm also sick of the homogenizing of names. They'll Always Forever be the Dixie Chicks as far as I'm concerned. And I prefer the Dixie Chicks version better than the Fleetwood Mac original. The current regime ain't gonna be happy until the whole country is screwed up.
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Post by adam31 on Feb 10, 2021 14:09:44 GMT -5
Yeah I'm also sick of the homogenizing of names. They'll Always Forever be the Dixie Chicks as far as I'm concerned. And I prefer the Dixie Chicks version better than the Fleetwood Mac original. The current regime ain't gonna be happy until the whole country is screwed up. Same with Lady Antebellum, now known as "Lady A", ridiculous. How can anybody be offended with the name "Antebellum"? I'd say 99% don't even know what it meant.
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Post by Mike on Feb 10, 2021 17:39:12 GMT -5
Forgot to mention this yesterday: Dixie Chicks’ “Landslide” was a cover version of the 1975 Fleetwood Mac song. Am I the only one that prefers the Dixie Chicks’ version over the Fleetwood Mac original? No. And I don't as much fault them for not wanting to be called "Dixie Chicks" anymore as much as picking just "The Chicks". "The Chicks" sounds too generic unless that's the starting group name - replacing "Dixie" with something else rather than just striking Dixie from the name would have sounded better.
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Post by laura on Feb 13, 2021 12:06:18 GMT -5
Forgot to mention this yesterday: Dixie Chicks’ “Landslide” was a cover version of the 1975 Fleetwood Mac song. Am I the only one that prefers the Dixie Chicks’ version over the Fleetwood Mac original? No. And I don't as much fault them for not wanting to be called "Dixie Chicks" anymore as much as picking just "The Chicks". "The Chicks" sounds too generic unless that's the starting group name - replacing "Dixie" with something else rather than just striking Dixie from the name would have sounded better. I think they changed it to that because their fans refer to them more as "The Chicks" anyway, even if they were to have changed "Dixie" into something less controversial instead of just dropping it? There's a similar situation with Lady Antebellum, who shortened their name to "Lady A" for the same reasons The Chicks shortened their name, because of the connotation and how fans refer to them a lot.
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Post by at40fansince1984 on Feb 13, 2021 18:50:54 GMT -5
I'll join in this. When will The Killers change their "controversial" name to something PC?
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Post by tokyoguy2021 on Feb 14, 2021 5:33:58 GMT -5
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