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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2021 13:56:44 GMT -5
It was Dees Sleeze who sent it but I have a copy too. darn it why did you had to reveal it?
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Post by Mike on Oct 20, 2021 15:26:16 GMT -5
Whomever submitted it to the LD said there were some skips. I edited them out and added promos and ID's then got distracted and forgot to save the edited file *sheesh* Ohhhh, that would explain why I didn't hear any IDs over the end-of-hour music beds - another oopsie!
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Post by saltyhylian on Oct 23, 2021 20:38:37 GMT -5
3/22/97 (10/18/21 LD) insight:
*David Perry filled in for Kasem that week. He was a regular substitute during the CT40 era. Also interesting to hear a rare radio ad for WWE Raw from that time.
*Oklahoma City-based R&B group Joose (pronounced “juice”) debuts their cover of the 1989 Garth Brooks song “If Tomorrow Never Comes” (#40). Never even heard of this group until this exact show.
*311 falls 3 with their first and only Top 40 track to date, “All Mixed Up” (#38). The band also has an unofficial holiday called “311 Day” on (appropriately) March 11 (3/11), in which they celebrate with biennial concerts held in various cities (except this past year, where it was held virtually in their recording studio).
*Fergie and her trio Wild Orchid debut the second of their 3 Top 40 tracks, “Talk to Me” (#37). It was a follow up to “At Night I Pray”, which was their highest peaking track (at #25). Their final track, “Supernatural”, did not last long. Perry also tells a small piece on the trio’s individual experiences in the entertainment world.
*For a period of time, Kasem invited listeners who participated in the Request & Dedication segments (the CT40 equivalent of the LDDs of AT40) to provide a small update on their status since sending their requests on previous shows.
*Ginuwine rebounds 1 with “Pony” (#36). This one had an interesting run as it kept falling and rebounding (including to it’s peak at #32) quite a bit during it’s final few weeks on the chart. It spent 19 weeks overall on R&R.
*”Secret Garden” (#31) is Bruce Springsteen’s last Top 40 track to date. It is actually the track’s second run, after debuting and peaking at #40 on May 1995. It resurged after appearing on the soundtrack to the film Jerry Maguire.
*Perry tells a piece on David Bowie selling celebrity bonds (dubbed “Bowie Bonds”), which are asset-back securities of revenues from intellectual property of recording artists (e.g. from albums and singles).
*Real McCoy moves up 10 with, fittingly, their last Top 40 track, “One More Time” (#28). This seems to be a remixed version of the track as I haven’t heard this one before (only the original album version). I have no idea if they’re still a thing to this day (I’m pretty sure the “Real McCoy” name still exists in that capacity).
*Latin supergroup Blackout All-Stars moves up 1 with “I Like It Like That” (#24), a cover of the 1967 Pete Rodriguez song. Originally released for the 1994 film of the same name, it was then popularized by a 1996 Burger King TV ad campaign, which lead to a resurgence of the single that year. This version also sounds similar to Tito Nieves’ solo version of the track.
*Blackstreet holds with the group-only version of “No Diggity” (#20). This track ended the 14-week stay of Los Del Rio’s “Macarena” on the #1 slot on the Hot 100.
*Keith Sweat rebounds 1 with “Nobody” (#13). This track was well known for it’s sexual themes, which kinda surprised me that a cleaner version was never released.
*Australian Gina G falls 3 with the British entry of the 1996 Eurovision contest, “Ooh Ahh (Just a Lil Bit)” (#12), which placed 8th on the competition.
*Céline Dion, the winner of the 1988 Eurovision contest representing Switzerland (by 1 point over the British entry at that time), moves up 1 with “All By Myself” (#9), a cover of the 1975 Eric Carmen song.
*Perry tells a piece on songs which borrow melodies from classical pieces from Bach, Beethoven, and Mozart. One of the songs mentioned, Walter Murphy’s 1976 song “A 5th of Beethoven”, was used by Robin Thicke (under his last name) for his 2002 song “When I Get You Alone” (which I had no idea that was actually him due to his differing voice and look at the time).
*En Vogue also move up 1 with “Don’t Let Go (Love)” (#6). It was their last Top 10 to date (peaking at #2).
*Spice Girls hold at their peak with their debut “Wannabe” (#4). An EP featuring the track and a demo version of “Hold Your Love” was released in July to coincide with the 25th anniversary of it’s single release.
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Post by at40fansince1984 on Oct 23, 2021 20:52:14 GMT -5
I think that WWF(E) ad was about the time WCW had the NWO & was kicking WWF's @ss in the ratings until they watered it down with too many people & too many split-offs AKA NWO Black & White NWO Red & Black LWO (Latino World Order).
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Post by Mike on Oct 23, 2021 23:26:46 GMT -5
I think that WWF(E) ad was about the time WCW had the NWO & was kicking WWF's @ss in the ratings until they watered it down with too many people & too many split-offs AKA NWO Black & White NWO Red & Black LWO (Latino World Order). 1997 was the year the WWF just could not gain any traction whatsoever - what they had in place by the end of the year would ultimately pay huge dividends in 98, but during the year? Not so much. But as mentioned in the ads, this was right when Raw was expanding to 2 hours, which would certainly explain the ads even being there.
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Post by at40fansince1984 on Oct 24, 2021 1:36:09 GMT -5
The ratings are even worse now but yet it's now THREE hours every week.
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Post by Mike on Nov 8, 2021 23:44:38 GMT -5
Chart: worldradiohistory.com/Archive-RandR/1980s/1986/RR-1986-12-19.pdf - last page. It follows the then-typical pattern of using the last printed chart of the previous year for the first countdown of the new year, though admittedly I'm a bit surprised that even Dick Clark's Countdown America did this same thing. Both this and the Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 stand in contrast to AT40, which followed Billboard's schedule and therefore ended 1986 with a countdown on 12/27 - then doing the year-end countdown on this first week of 1987, while Dick and Rick do regular countdowns on the first week. But then again, they'd be following R&R's schedule - in the second half of the 80s, when they took only one week off, they'd take the last week of December off regardless of dating: The following year 1988 really does begin with a chart dated 1/1! (For Rick, assuming Reception's listing is accurate, I'm also a bit surprised as Rick did a Top 86 that year, and only the week of 12/27 is shown as taking "off" - so, he did go for doing the full Top 86 in one week? I mean, if Casey and AT40 could do a one-week Top 100, then stands to reason Rick could do a one-week Top 86...it's just that I didn't think Rick ever did a one-week year-end countdown at any time, at least not in years when it was longer-length [1985 and 1987 were only a Top 40].) Hmmm...I wonder how long Countdown America had this theme package? If memory serves, these same themes were STILL being used even in the early 1993 countdowns we heard! I also wonder when they dropped down to 20...the "other countdowns" thread on the AT40 board doesn't have an answer to that. In any case, the AC chart was often ahead of the game on softer hits, particularly during the 80s - look no further than at the top of the chart! "Stay the Night" spent what I'd assume were the last two countdowns of 1986 on top (that is, I'm assuming he spent two countdowns on top and didn't lose a week to the year-end countdown), while on the Weekly Top 40, that was just getting started! "This is the Time" is in a similar position, a couple of weeks further along in both places. DROPPERS: - Huey Lewis & The News - Hip to Be Square (LW: 28; it only reached #23 on AC)
- Madonna - True Blue (LW: 27)
- OMD - (Forever) Live and Die (LW: 22; only reached #18)
Was that David Doyle (of Charlie's Angels and game shows, and later to be Rugrats's Grandpa Lou Pickles) on the Alka-Seltzer ad at the beginning of the show? Linda Ronstadt is among the elite group of artists who've had simultaneous hits from separate albums - while "Somewhere Out There" is the centerpiece song from An American Tail, her cover of "When You Wish Upon a Star" is from her own album For Sentimental Reasons, which was the third and final installment of her trilogy of jazz albums recorded with the Nelson Riddle Orchestra. Incidentally, Nelson is the reason that "Star" also doubles as a posthumous hit, as while the album wouldn't be released until October 1986, he himself died a year before that. Where in the world did Dick get this Flashback chart from the beginning of 1983?? I can't find a single chart anywhere from early 1983 that matches the given songs played from what's supposed to be its Top 10. (This is not helped by the countdown situation at that time: Dick would still have been hosting the National Music Survey and still have been using Cash Box for that, and no R&R chart matches the given songs either - not CHR, where Men at Work would easily have been above #7, and not AC, where they in fact stopped at #11 for 4 weeks.) About the only thing that seems like it could possibly be even close to what matches is that it's one last reference to the so-called Countdown Computer, so to speak (you know, the one from Charlie Van Dyke's Weekly Music Magazine - which was the immediate predecessor to the original Countdown America, and which BECAME Countdown America to begin 1983!). Jeffrey Osborne had sort of an odd career in terms of his successes at R&B and AC - what tended to happen is that when he'd have an R&B smash, the song would perform much less well at AC, and when the song hit at AC, R&B wouldn't take to it so much. About the only two exceptions to this were "You Should Be Mine (The Woo Woo Song)" from several months back and his duet with Dionne Warwick from later in '87, "Love Power" - both songs went Top 5 both places. Speaking of R&B + AC successes, a couple songs later we'd have: Aretha Franklin with her Pop underperformer, "Jimmy Lee". It's not in the Weekly Top 40 at all yet, but is already up to #5 on the Urban (R&B) chart in addition to being on this countdown for a month now. Upon much digging, Lionel Richie's streak of Top 10 consistency would nearly extend all the way through the duration of the lifespan of Dick Clark's countdowns. All things must come to an end, but in this case, Dick himself wouldn't be around to see the end of this one: Lionel didn't miss the Top 10 until the beginning of 2005, when "Long Long Way to Go" would have barely scr@ped the countdown at #20. 2005, of course, was the year of guest hosts, due to Dick Clark's stroke the previous month. (This assumes Dick Clark's U.S. Music Survey, his later countdown, still went down to 20 until it ended - if that's not the case, then disregard this section. Also, Billboard shows that "Deep River Woman", with Alabama, reached #28 on the AC chart a month after this countdown in 1987, but upon checking the respective R&Rs, it looks like the song didn't chart there.) As far as chart veterans go, Sergio Mendes could sort of be considered the "Santana" of the AC chart - after a string of hits from 1966 to 1970, it'd be mighty slim pickings until his career revival in 1983. But now, he'd be approaching a final end: After "Take This Love", there'd be "What Do We Mean to Each Other", and then that's it. I'd say, as far as acts in this week's countdown go, his main contemporaries in terms of both track record and history at this point would be Linda Ronstadt and Chicago, with Lionel Richie fast approaching their track record but not having as long a history. Billy Joel would also be close as well, with a career just a bit shorter than Linda and Chicago - his track record at AC was decidedly bi-polar in the 1970s, but after 1980, he'd be much more of a regular. Speaking of Chicago, though, they were indeed on their way to having another big hit: "Will You Still Love Me" would go on to be #1 for all of 1987.
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Post by adam31 on Nov 10, 2021 10:35:06 GMT -5
Chart: worldradiohistory.com/Archive-RandR/1980s/1986/RR-1986-12-19.pdf - last page. It follows the then-typical pattern of using the last printed chart of the previous year for the first countdown of the new year, though admittedly I'm a bit surprised that even Dick Clark's Countdown America did this same thing. Both this and the Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 stand in contrast to AT40, which followed Billboard's schedule and therefore ended 1986 with a countdown on 12/27 - then doing the year-end countdown on this first week of 1987, while Dick and Rick do regular countdowns on the first week. But then again, they'd be following R&R's schedule - in the second half of the 80s, when they took only one week off, they'd take the last week of December off regardless of dating: The following year 1988 really does begin with a chart dated 1/1! (For Rick, assuming Reception's listing is accurate, I'm also a bit surprised as Rick did a Top 86 that year, and only the week of 12/27 is shown as taking "off" - so, he did go for doing the full Top 86 in one week? I mean, if Casey and AT40 could do a one-week Top 100, then stands to reason Rick could do a one-week Top 86...it's just that I didn't think Rick ever did a one-week year-end countdown at any time, at least not in years when it was longer-length [1985 and 1987 were only a Top 40].) Hmmm...I wonder how long Countdown America had this theme package? If memory serves, these same themes were STILL being used even in the early 1993 countdowns we heard! I also wonder when they dropped down to 20...the "other countdowns" thread on the AT40 board doesn't have an answer to that. In any case, the AC chart was often ahead of the game on softer hits, particularly during the 80s - look no further than at the top of the chart! "Stay the Night" spent what I'd assume were the last two countdowns of 1986 on top (that is, I'm assuming he spent two countdowns on top and didn't lose a week to the year-end countdown), while on the Weekly Top 40, that was just getting started! "This is the Time" is in a similar position, a couple of weeks further along in both places. DROPPERS: - Huey Lewis & The News - Hip to Be Square (LW: 28; it only reached #23 on AC)
- Madonna - True Blue (LW: 27)
- OMD - (Forever) Live and Die (LW: 22; only reached #18)
Was that David Doyle (of Charlie's Angels and game shows, and later to be Rugrats's Grandpa Lou Pickles) on the Alka-Seltzer ad at the beginning of the show? Linda Ronstadt is among the elite group of artists who've had simultaneous hits from separate albums - while "Somewhere Out There" is the centerpiece song from An American Tail, her cover of "When You Wish Upon a Star" is from her own album For Sentimental Reasons, which was the third and final installment of her trilogy of jazz albums recorded with the Nelson Riddle Orchestra. Incidentally, Nelson is the reason that "Star" also doubles as a posthumous hit, as while the album wouldn't be released until October 1986, he himself died a year before that. Where in the world did Dick get this Flashback chart from the beginning of 1983?? I can't find a single chart anywhere from early 1983 that matches the given songs played from what's supposed to be its Top 10. (This is not helped by the countdown situation at that time: Dick would still have been hosting the National Music Survey and still have been using Cash Box for that, and no R&R chart matches the given songs either - not CHR, where Men at Work would easily have been above #7, and not AC, where they in fact stopped at #11 for 4 weeks.) About the only thing that seems like it could possibly be even close to what matches is that it's one last reference to the so-called Countdown Computer, so to speak (you know, the one from Charlie Van Dyke's Weekly Music Magazine - which was the immediate predecessor to the original Countdown America, and which BECAME Countdown America to begin 1983!). Jeffrey Osborne had sort of an odd career in terms of his successes at R&B and AC - what tended to happen is that when he'd have an R&B smash, the song would perform much less well at AC, and when the song hit at AC, R&B wouldn't take to it so much. About the only two exceptions to this were "You Should Be Mine (The Woo Woo Song)" from several months back and his duet with Dionne Warwick from later in '87, "Love Power" - both songs went Top 5 both places. Speaking of R&B + AC successes, a couple songs later we'd have: Aretha Franklin with her Pop underperformer, "Jimmy Lee". It's not in the Weekly Top 40 at all yet, but is already up to #5 on the Urban (R&B) chart in addition to being on this countdown for a month now. Upon much digging, Lionel Richie's streak of Top 10 consistency would nearly extend all the way through the duration of the lifespan of Dick Clark's countdowns. All things must come to an end, but in this case, Dick himself wouldn't be around to see the end of this one: Lionel didn't miss the Top 10 until the beginning of 2005, when "Long Long Way to Go" would have barely scr@ped the countdown at #20. 2005, of course, was the year of guest hosts, due to Dick Clark's stroke the previous month. (This assumes Dick Clark's U.S. Music Survey, his later countdown, still went down to 20 until it ended - if that's not the case, then disregard this section. Also, Billboard shows that "Deep River Woman", with Alabama, reached #28 on the AC chart a month after this countdown in 1987, but upon checking the respective R&Rs, it looks like the song didn't chart there.) As far as chart veterans go, Sergio Mendes could sort of be considered the "Santana" of the AC chart - after a string of hits from 1966 to 1970, it'd be mighty slim pickings until his career revival in 1983. But now, he'd be approaching a final end: After "Take This Love", there'd be "What Do We Mean to Each Other", and then that's it. I'd say, as far as acts in this week's countdown go, his main contemporaries in terms of both track record and history at this point would be Linda Ronstadt and Chicago, with Lionel Richie fast approaching their track record but not having as long a history. Billy Joel would also be close as well, with a career just a bit shorter than Linda and Chicago - his track record at AC was decidedly bi-polar in the 1970s, but after 1980, he'd be much more of a regular. Speaking of Chicago, though, they were indeed on their way to having another big hit: "Will You Still Love Me" would go on to be #1 for all of 1987. So Chicago had #1 of 1987 on R&R? More or less legitimate than their infamous #1 of '88 on Billboard?
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Post by Mike on Nov 10, 2021 13:13:54 GMT -5
So Chicago had #1 of 1987 on R&R? More or less legitimate than their infamous #1 of '88 on Billboard? The two aren't comparable, as this refers to AC, not CHR - "Will You Still Love Me" was R&R's #1 AC song of 1987.
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Post by roadrunner on Nov 15, 2021 6:49:32 GMT -5
The Countdown Walt Love & Future hits: Though I recorded many tapes during 1985 & 1999 and nearly everything is from radio stations, it was impossble to record the shows in its entire lenght. That´s why many positions at Walt Love´s Countdown are missing. But I´m thankful that I had the chance to listen to VOA Europe long before internet radio changed everything and I could listen to any station in the world so easily. For the 1996 shows I don´t have a list- but from 1993-1995 I wrote down all chart positions on "The Countdown".
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Post by Mike on Nov 22, 2021 22:43:58 GMT -5
THREE-QUEL: We're three weeks out from 2/6, heard last month. Hence, time for another multi-week chart listing!
29 29 25 18 Elton John - The Last Song XX XX 26 16 Swing Out Sister - Not Gonna Change 28 26 19 12 Whitney Houston - I Will Always Love You XX 25 16 15 Bonnie Raitt - All at Once 26 19 13 05 Peter Cetera & Chaka Khan - Feels Like Heaven 21 17 14 09 Genesis - Never a Time 25 16 10 11 Sade - No Ordinary Love 20 24 24 26 Duran Duran - Ordinary World 19 22 27 30 Michael W. Smith - Somebody Love Me 18 20 21 22 Wendy Moten - Come in Out of the Rain 17 12 12 13 Kurt Howell - Does Love Not Open Your Eyes 16 09 07 08 Michael Jackson - Heal the World 15 18 22 24 Paul McCartney - Hope of Deliverance 14 15 15 17 Jude Cole - Tell the Truth 13 21 28 -- Vanessa Williams & Brian McKnight - Love Is 12 14 17 21 Michael Bolton - Reach Out I'll Be There 11 08 05 04 Restless Heart - When She Cries 10 13 18 20 Jon Secada - Angel 09 10 11 14 Boyz II Men - In the Still of the Nite 08 06 06 07 Celine Dion - Love Can Move Mountains 07 11 20 28 Gloria Estefan - I See Your Smile 06 05 08 11 Cathy Dennis - Irresistible 05 07 09 19 Elton John - Simple Life 04 03 03 03 Go West - Faithful 03 04 04 06 Patty Smyth - No Mistakes 02 02 01 01 Peabo Bryson & Regina Belle - A Whole New World 01 01 02 02 Kenny G - Forever in Love
(In case this is confusing: This week's Countdown America droppers are Peter & Chaka, Genesis, and Sade.)
"Ordinary World" is a song that probably would have fared better had there been a Hot AC chart, or else otherwise had the format as a whole leaned "hotter" - it would only reach #14 here.
Those who tune in to The Voice on NBC will have seen her for several weeks now, but for those who haven't: Wendy Moten has been one of the competing singers on there this season. As to her efforts to build a career here in 1993 - I'm not sure whether the presence of similar contemporaries either helped lift her up or caused her to get overshadowed. By that, I'm referring to Whitney Houston and Vanessa Williams, who were having even bigger hits at this same time. More on Vanessa in a bit, but this was of course the period when Whitney was having three big hits at once. Before I get to Whitney, I'll note for Wendy that while "Come in Out of the Rain" would stop at #6 for three weeks, it lasted for 15 weeks total in the countdown, good enough to lift it to #24 for the year.
As it happens, "Reunited" went to #1 for 4 weeks no matter which metric you use - it did that on both the CHR and AC charts in R&R, heck it even did that on Billboard's AT40 and in Cash Box as well. (Suffice it to say I was not expecting that kind of across-the-board consistency!)
Now, for Whitney - who you might say, was the hottest act around right now. An odd chart stat this week: All three of her current hits were on the AC chart, but all three were also in the 20s - thus, below the countdown. "I Will Always Love You" is listed above, while "I'm Every Woman" stepped down 23-24 (it peaked at #23), and "I Have Nothing" was just getting started, leaping 30-22 - tied for the biggest move of the week on the entire chart (alongside the week's highest debut in the countdown, "Love Is"). "I'm Every Woman", incidentally, demonstrates the difference between the two AC countdowns, as while it's nowhere to be found here, it would be heard in Casey's Countdown.
An additional note on Dick Clark and Smokey Robinson in 1987: Smokey would appear twice on Clark's Pyramids that year - one week of $25,000 in May, and one week of $100,000 as September turned to October. (Essentially, the former coinciding with "Just to See Her", the latter with "One Heartbeat".) And the latter was a musical affair indeed, as the other celebrity player who'd appear that week was Gladys Knight. Incidentally, "Just to See Her" also went to #1 on Billboard's AC chart, but "One Heartbeat" would stop at #2 behind "I Just Can't Stop Loving You".
"Love Is" would be enroute to three weeks at #1, 19 weeks in the entire countdown (23 on Casey's Countdown), and #1 for all of 1993 on AC. Vanessa narrowly missed having #1 songs for the year in back to back years, as "Save the Best For Last" finished #3 for 1992 - but on Billboard, it was #1, and so too was "Love Is" for 1993, giving her the full chart feat there.
As it happens, "Tell Me What You Dream" would finish #2 for the year behind Vanessa and Brian in R&R. This week, it was the one and only debut on the entire chart.
And not to be outdone, we hear from the #3 song of the year this week as well - it's this week's #1 song.
Smokey's original "Cruisin' " was not an AC hit, as it only reached #34 on Billboard's AC chart. A remake by Huey Lewis & Gwyneth Paltrow, on the other hand, went all the way to #2 on the AC countdowns, kept from the top spot by boy bands - in this case, BBMak's "Back Here" and 'N Sync's "This I Promise You". (On Billboard, they managed to steal a week from BBMak.)
Sound abruptly went out for a bit during "Love Can Move Mountains", only coming back when I refreshed about 20 seconds later - I wasn't recording this, but did it go out when anyone else was listening?
"Being With You" reached #1 on R&R's Pop chart, but stopped at #2 for two weeks on the AC chart (kept from the top spot by "Her Town Too", which spent 5 weeks at #1).
Despite the Crapid rise for "I See You Smile" (listed above), it would be held to #3 for five weeks - behind a few different songs, but the one ahead of it for all five was "Love Is".
Dick's noting that "Irresistible" was bumped back this week could have been an intentional choice of words - as listed above, it's an exhibit of Odd Bullet Behavior this week. Before they finally ditched playlist methodology, such a thing would happen with a bit of uncommon frequency on R&R's charts other than CHR (on CHR, it was more of a rare event).
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Post by adam31 on Nov 22, 2021 23:01:46 GMT -5
Those who tune in to The Voice on NBC will have seen her for several weeks now, but for those who haven't: Wendy Moten has been one of the competing singers on there this season. As to her efforts to build a career here in 1993 - I'm not sure whether the presence of similar contemporaries either helped lift her up or caused her to get overshadowed. By that, I'm referring to Whitney Houston and Vanessa Williams, who were having even bigger hits at this same time. More on Vanessa in a bit, but this was of course the period when Whitney was having three big hits at once. Before I get to Whitney, I'll note for Wendy that while "Come in Out of the Rain" would stop at #6 for three weeks, it lasted for 15 weeks total in the countdown, good enough to lift it to #24 for the year. No s**T, really she is on the Voice? "Rain" is one of my favorite minor hits of all time!As it happens, "Reunited" went to #1 for 4 weeks no matter which metric you use - it did that on both the CHR and AC charts in R&R, heck it even did that on Billboard's AT40 and in Cash Box as well. (Suffice it to say I was not expecting that kind of across-the-board consistency!) Fascinating fact, can't remember you ever saying that before in one of your reviews. We don't play "Reunited" usually of course....but great song!An additional note on Dick Clark and Smokey Robinson in 1987: Smokey would appear twice on Clark's Pyramids that year - one week of $25,000 in May, and one week of $100,000 as September turned to October. He's no Dick Clark of course, but Michael Strahan does a pretty good job on the current Pyramid on ABC, much better than anyone else to attempt it except DickSound abruptly went out for a bit during "Love Can Move Mountains", only coming back when I refreshed about 20 seconds later - I wasn't recording this, but did it go out when anyone else was listening? Believe it did this morning as well during my listen, probably the file
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Post by Mike on Dec 7, 2021 15:42:54 GMT -5
2006, Part One:
100 Fergie featuring Will.I.Am - Fergalicious 99 Paris Hilton - Stars Are Blind 98 Beyonce featuring Jay-Z - Deja Vu 97 Jessica Simpson - A Public Affair 96 Rob Thomas - Ever the Same 95 Nick Lachey - I Can't Hate You Anymore 94 Kelis - Bossy 93 Danity Kane - Show Stopper 92 Frankie J featuring Mannie Fresh & Chamillionaire - That Girl 91 Gwen Stefani - Hollaback Girl 90 Ciara featuring Chamillionaire - Get Up 89 Daddy Yankee - Rompe 88 Chingy featuring Tyrese - Pullin' Me Back 87 Christina Aguilera - Hurt 86 Rascal Flatts - What Hurts the Most 85 Ne-Yo - When You're Mad 84 Jeannie Ortega featuring Papoose - Crowded 83 Chris Brown - Gimme That 82 Nelly Furtado - Maneater 81 Red Hot Chili Peppers - Dani California 80 Pink - Stupid Girls 79 Ludacris featuring Pharrell - Money Maker 78 Akon featuring Eminem - Smack That 77 Rihanna - Pon De Replay 76 Paula DeAnda featuring Baby Bash - Doing Too Much 75 Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone 74 Evanescence - Call Me When You're Sober 73 Bo Bice - The Real Thing 72 The Fray - How to Save a Life 71 Mariah Carey - Shake it Off 70 Rihanna - If It's Lovin' That You Want 69 Papa Roach - Scars 68 Ray J - One Wish 67 Weezer - Beverly Hills 66 Ciara featuring Missy Elliott - 1, 2 Step 65 The Pvssycat Dolls - Don't Cha 64 Anna Nalick - Breathe (2 AM) 63 Juelz Santana - There it Go (The Whistle Song) 62 Gorillaz featuring De La Soul - Feel Good Inc. 61 Kelly Clarkson - Behind These Hazel Eyes 60 Chris Brown - Yo (Excuse Me Miss) 59 Lifehouse - You and Me 58 Teddy Geiger - For You I Will (Confidence) 57 Snow Patrol - Chasing Cars 56 E-40 featuring T-Pain & Kandi Girl - U and Dat 55 KT Tunstall - Black Horse and the Cherry Tree 54 Blue October - Hate Me 53 Ne-Yo - Sexy Love 52 Field Mob featuring Ciara - So What 51 The Black Eyed Peas - Pump It
"Ever the Same" did not actually reach either the Weekly Top 40 nor AT40 - and yet, both countdowns ended up ranking it for 2006, with AT40 ranking it higher (#90)!
Not content with that, however, Rick also put these songs in the 2006 countdown - except that they really had no business being there, as they were 2005 hits that did not last past that year: "Hollaback Girl", "Since U Been Gone", "1, 2 Step", and "Don't Cha" (this one actually fell off the first week of the year).
"Scars" and "Behind These Hazel Eyes" probably shouldn't have been here either - Papa Roach lasted just the first seven weeks into 2006, all at #39 or #40, while Kelly only lasted the first three weeks in. "Pon De Replay", "Shake it Off", Weezer, and Lifehouse, meanwhile, range from lasting a little longer into 2006 to lasting long enough to easily justify inclusion (Rihanna lasted through February, Mariah and Lifehouse didn't fall off until April, Weezer didn't fall off until June!). For what it's worth, AT40 ranked Papa Roach and Kelly as well - both began 2006 in the 20s, Kelly fell off there in mid-February, while Papa Roach lasted through March.
Due to these other ones, though, I can't even be surprised at including ones like "Rompe" and "Gimme That", which each lasted just four weeks in the countdown.
Meanwhile, these songs also ranked in Rick's countdown but not in AT40's: "Fergalicious", "I Can't Hate You Anymore", "Show Stopper", "Hurt", "Maneater", "Money Maker", and "Smack That".
In turn, these ranked in AT40's Top 100 but not here: "Listen to Your Heart", Relient K's "Who I Am Hates Who I've Been", "Wake Me Up When September Ends", "Lean Wit It, Rock Wit It" by Dem Franchize Boyz, "We Be Burnin' ", "Snap Yo Fingers", Yung Joc's "It's Goin' Down", "We Belong Together", "Let U Go" by Ashley Parker Angel, and its own 2005 song that really didn't belong - "Mr. Brightside".
"Call Me When You're Sober", "Yo (Excuse Me Miss)", and "Sexy Love" all matched their rankings from AT40's Top 100.
And an interesting non-chart-related fact: Rick mentioned that Lifehouse recorded their album (that "You and Me" came from) at a studio owned by Keifer Sutherland - Ironworks Studio, which is owned and run by him and Jude Cole. Jude, as it happens, co-wrote "You and Me" with Jason Wade of Lifehouse, beginning an association with them that continues to this day (he's also their manager and at least a co-producer on their albums, the latter also beginning with this same album).
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Post by saltyhylian on Dec 10, 2021 13:01:54 GMT -5
Working on the insight for Dees’ 2006 YE show (which will likely include Part 2 with some of the artists having multiple tracks on #50-1) so it’s gonna take a little bit. However, I do want to say this: Seeing “Hollaback Girl”, “Since U Been Gone”, “1, 2 Step” and “Don’t Cha” on this chart confused me a bit seeing that those dropped before 2006 (or in the latter’s case: was a dropper on the first show that year). As I said on one of my Kasem AT40 insights: it had to be Dees’ typical “weeding out” the hard r*p songs to please his anti-r*p affiliates and replacing them with those tracks. Meanwhile, these songs also ranked in Rick's countdown but not in AT40's: "Fergalicious", "I Can't Hate You Anymore", "Show Stopper", "Hurt", "Maneater", "Money Maker", and "Smack That". In turn, these ranked in AT40's Top 100 but not here: "Listen to Your Heart", Relient K's "Who I Am Hates Who I've Been", "Wake Me Up When September Ends", "Lean Wit It, Rock Wit It" by Dem Franchize Boyz, "We Be Burnin' ", "Snap Yo Fingers", Yung Joc's "It's Goin' Down", "We Belong Together", "Let U Go" by Ashley Parker Angel, and its own 2005 song that really didn't belong - "Mr. Brightside". Very interesting. If I were to guess (and only saying for the 2006 tracks), it had to be either Seacrest and Dees having different cut-off dates or these tracks didn’t reach any YE thresholds Seacrest and Dees have (e.g. how many weeks spent, positions, etc.).
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Post by Mike on Dec 10, 2021 20:25:48 GMT -5
Seeing “Hollaback Girl”, “Since U Been Gone”, “1, 2 Step” and “Don’t Cha” on this chart confused me a bit seeing that those dropped before 2006 (or in the latter’s case: was a dropper on the first show that year). As I said on one of my Kasem AT40 insights: it had to be Dees’ typical “weeding out” the hard r*p songs to please his anti-r*p affiliates and replacing them with those tracks. Of the four, only "Don't Cha" also ranked in AT40's Top 100 for 2006 - it was also still in their countdown at the year's beginning, albeit it only lasted through January. But as it pertains to "weeding out" songs - "Lean Wit It, Rock Wit It", "Snap Yo Fingers", "It's Goin' Down", and "Let U Go" (?!?) never reached Rick's countdown. Rick did apparently play Ashley Parker Angel once as an extra, but for whatever reason, the song never actually entered the countdown. God knows why... As to the others that only made AT40's Top 100: D.H.T. fell off in mid-February, Relient K reached #26 (in a 7-week run, but that's still easily better than the likes of "Rompe" and "Gimme That"), Green Day stayed on through April (this should easily have replaced one of Gwen/"Since"/"Step"), Sean Paul fell off at the end of March (ditto), and "We Belong Together" fell off at the end of January (this one, at least, makes sense to not be there). Those stats come from the Weekly Top 40 if that isn't clear. Very interesting. If I were to guess (and only saying for the 2006 tracks), it had to be either Seacrest and Dees having different cut-off dates or these tracks didn’t reach any YE thresholds Seacrest and Dees have (e.g. how many weeks spent, positions, etc.). OR: Well, let's just say there's a reason Dees is said to use a "dartboard", per se. Possible that Rick had a later cut-off, certainly true that he placed some emphasis on hits that were hits right at the end of the year.
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Post by at40fansince1984 on Dec 10, 2021 23:21:50 GMT -5
You got a higher ranking from Seacrest if you kissed his @ss when you were on his show.
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Post by Mike on Dec 13, 2021 11:43:12 GMT -5
2006, Part Two: 50 The Black Eyed Peas - My Humps 49 Kanye West featuring Jamie Foxx - Gold Digger 48 Justin Timberlake featuring T.I. - My Love 47 Saving Jane - Girl Next Door 46 T-Pain - I'm N Luv (Wit a Dancer) 45 Mariah Carey - Don't Forget About Us 44 The Pvssycat Dolls featuring Will.I.Am - (Beep) 43 Bubba Sparxxx featuring Ying Yang Twins & Mr. ColliPark - Ms. New Booty 42 Sean Paul featuring Keyshia Cole - (When You Gonna) Give it Up to Me 41 Eminem featuring Nate Dogg - Shake That 40 Nickelback - Photogr@ph 39 Nelly featuring Paul Wall, Ali, and Gipp - Grillz 38 Mario Vazquez - Gallery 37 Hinder - Lips of an Angel 36 Fall Out Boy - Sugar, We're Going Down 35 Cherish featuring Sean Paul of Youngbloodz - Do it to It 34 Fergie - London Bridge 33 James Blunt - You're Beautiful 32 Gnarls Barkley - Crazy 31 Kelly Clarkson - Because of You 30 JoJo - Too Little Too Late 29 Christina Aguilera - Ain't No Other Man 28 Cascada - Everytime We Touch 27 Nickelback - Far Away 26 Chamillionaire featuring Krayzie Bone - Ridin' 25 Nick Lachey - What's Left of Me 24 The All-American Rejects - Move Along 23 Staind - Right Here 22 The Pvssycat Dolls - Stickwitu 21 Rihanna - Unfaithful 20 Fall Out Boy - Dance, Dance 19 The All-American Rejects - Dirty Little Secret 18 Daniel Powter - Bad Day 17 Nickelback - Savin' Me 16 Ne-Yo - So Sick 15 Chris Brown featuring Juelz Santana - Run It 14 Cassie - Me & U 13 Fort Minor - Where'd You Go 12 Panic! at the Disco - I Write Sins Not Tragedies 11 The Fray - Over My Head (Cable Car) 10 Mary J. Blige - Be Without You 09 Kelly Clarkson - Walk Away 08 The Pvssycat Dolls featuring Snoop Dogg - Buttons 07 Natasha Bedingfield - Unwritten 06 Sean Paul - Temperature 05 Beyonce featuring Slim Thug - Check on It 04 Rihanna - S.O.S. 03 Nelly Furtado featuring Timbaland - Promiscuous 02 Shakira featuring Wyclef Jean - Hips Don't Lie WT40 #1 Song of 2005: Mariah Carey - We Belong Together 01 Justin Timberlake - SexyBack Listening to Part Two, the first half or so of this show really felt like it went by fast, LOL. (Possibly because of how much I was racing between listings?) It didn't start to slow down, or the feeling start to pass, until hitting the Top 20. Contrary to what Rick said, "Gold Digger" and "Crazy" did NOT reach #1 here - while Kanye did get there on AT40 and R&R, on the Weekly Top 40 he was held to #2 for 5 weeks, all behind "Because of You". And "Crazy" did not even sniff the top - it only reached #6. "Photogr@ph", however, did get there, on 12/3/05 (this was the only place where that got there), as did "Unwritten" (ditto, 4/22-29/06). So too did "Too Little Too Late", on 11/11/06 - and that has quite the story: That missed the top on Mediabase, being held to #2 for 3 weeks behind "Far Away" and "Lips of an Angel", but it topped both countdowns. Instead, "Far Away" was denied the top spot on either one! At the time, there was quite an uproar when it happened on AT40, as it had never happened since AT40 returned in 1998 where a song hit #1 on the "official chart of record", so to speak (this now being Mediabase), but didn't get there in the countdown - and JoJo, having the reverse situation, only aggravated things. Incidentally, no one really batted an eye when it was revealed that she did the same thing on the Weekly Top 40, certainly because people were used to Rick crowning "different" #1s by then. As it happens, Rick didn't mention this one, but "Where'd You Go" - which stopped at #2 on both AT40 and Mediabase - also hit #1 here (7/8/06). "S.O.S.", meanwhile, was not #1 for "multiple" weeks - just for one, 5/20/06. The T-Pain song title is, obviously, to refer to its "clean" version - admittedly, even back in 2006 I'd rarely if ever actually seen the "clean title" used...but, if "Don't Mess With My Heart" could work as a substitute for "Don't Phunk With My Heart" the previous year, then. I just noticed that this board also has a censor for...a certain word. I can't figure out who's a bigger prude: Jeff or Scott. (I can understand wanting to keep profanity off the board, the problem is the censors aren't entered properly into the board listing, so as to avoid them getting in the way when an offending sequence of letters just happen to get used in a benign way - such as above, or "Cece Peniston" on the AT40 Board.) "Crazy", "Because of You", "Dance, Dance", and "Be Without You" all matched their rankings from AT40's Top 100. ODD CHART STAT: "Over My Head (Cable Car)" spent 6 consecutive weeks at #5. "We Belong Together" was, obviously, NOT in the 2006 rankings - it was #1 for 2005. But even if he didn't want to give it an intro, he really should have had an outro, otherwise unsuspecting listeners could be tuning in and be like, "WHAT THE?!?" And Rick's putting "SexyBack" at #1 for the year comes down to precisely one thing: It spent more weeks at #1 than any other during the year. Yes, that's all it took - it's especially in this era of the Weekly Top 40 where he'd be prone to automatically giving #1 for the year to the longest-running #1, with the only possible wiggle room being if there was a tie for that during a given year (which for 2006, there wasn't).
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Post by Mike on Dec 13, 2021 11:47:56 GMT -5
And why yes, "Sugar, We're Going Down" is playing now again, just two songs after the show ended.
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Post by at40fansince1984 on Dec 13, 2021 12:46:00 GMT -5
Notice how Rick couldn't play the Stripper version of T-Pain but was fine playing the little kids sing in it the "Dees Bop" commercial parody after the song.
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Post by saltyhylian on Dec 13, 2021 15:54:48 GMT -5
Dees’ Top 100 of 2006 insight (it’s a long one):
*The special guests were JoJo, Snoop Dogg, Janet Jackson, Paris Hilton, Jessica Simpson and Jack Nicholson among others. Also, why they had to put those cringey Trojan ads on Part 2?!
*Fergie enters with her first of 2 entries. "Fergalicious" (#100), the follow up to her solo debut "London Bridge (Oh Snap/S**t)" (#34). “London Bridge” had to have been the more successful track of the two seeing as I barely heard the former outside of Ryan Seacrest’s AT40 at the time.
*”A Public Affair” (#97) is Jessica Simpson's last Top 40 track to date. She would then transition over to country music with her next album Do You Know.
*Rob Thomas lands with his third solo track “Ever The Same” (#96). Very interesting seeing this track make it on to this chart despite it NEVER appearing on neither AT40 or WT40. It peaked at #33 on R&R. How it charted higher on Seacrest’s YE chart, we’ll never know.
*Simpson's ex-husband Nick Lachey has 2 tracks on the chart: "I Can’t Hate You Amymore" (#95; skipped track) and “What’s Left of Me” (#25). Simpson and Lachey’s divorce was finalized on June 30 of that year.
*Kelis enters with her second and final Top 40 track “Bossy” (#94). Her first was the 2003-04 Top 10 track “Milkshake”. It features Too Short, who was “cut” from this version (in typical Dees fashion).
*Danity Kane lands at #93 with their debut track, “Show Stopper”. I still don’t get how their second (and last) track “Damaged” didn’t make Dees’ 2008 year-end chart. They’re currently on hiatus, after disbanding 3 times, turning into a trio and a duo, etc.
*”That Girl” (#92) is Frankie J’s last Top 40 track to date. Very interesting that Dees cut featured r*pper Chamillionaire’s verses while maintaining Mannie Fresh’s bridges.
*Gwen Stefani lands with “Hollaback Girl” (#91). Hardly remember the “this is my uhhh” version used here (and, of course, Dees cut the first verse). Also guessing “Luxurious” (which actually peaked at #5 on 1/28/06) and “Crash” didn’t meet the “thresholds” I mentioned for slots here.
*Ciara has 2 tracks on this chart: “Get Up” (#90) and “1, 2 Step” w/Missy Elliott (#66). The latter, which spent a week at #1 on R&R, is a follow up to her debut track “Goodies”, from the album of the same name, which released in 2004.
*Daddy Yankee lands with “Rompe” (#89). This track was overplayed to death on Latin and Rhythmic stations so I’m kinda not surprised to see this cross-over to CHR (it peaked at #19 on R&R). This is also the remix version featuring Lloyd Banks and Young Buck.
*Chingy and Tyrese land at #88 with “Pullin’ Me Back”, a track mentioned on one of my Kasem AT40 insights earlier.
*Rascal Flatts lands with a cover of the 2003 Mark Willis song “What Hurts the Most” (#86). This was later covered by German dance trio Cascada, who also lands with “Everytime We Touch” (#28).
*Ne-Yo has 3 tracks on this chart: “When Your Mad” (#85), “Sexy Love” (#53) and “So Sick” (#16). When I first heard of him, I automatically thought he spelt it “Neo” as in the Matrix character.
*Jeannie Ortega (no idea who she was/is) landed with her sole Top 40 track “Crowded” (#84, skipped track). It peaked at #28 on AT40, #25 on R&R, and #18 on WT40.
*Chris Brown also has 3 tracks on the chart: “Gimme That” (#83), “Yo (Excuse Me Miss)” (#60) and “Run It!” (#15). Wasn’t a huge Chris Brown fan but remembered hearing 2 versions of “Run It!”, this one with Juelz Santana and another without. Also note Dees used the original version of “Gimme That” and not the widely-used version featuring Lil Wayne.
*Nelly Furtado lands with “Maneater” (#82), the follow-up to “Promiscuous” (#3). They are from her album Loose, which was a departure from her folk-influenced previous album Folklore.
*”Dani California” (#81) is RHCP’s last Top 40 track to date. Their 2011 track “The Adventures Of Rain Dance Maggie”, which I never even heard, debuted and peaked at #50 on R&R on it’s sole week.
*Pink lands at #80 with “Stupid Girls”. Apparently, this track wasn’t planned to be released as a single due to it’s feminist themes but Zomba, after seeing the video for the track, then decided to release it to release it to radio after the video’s release. This was also one of my personal favorites of her album I’m Not Dead, the other being “U + Ur Hand”.
*Rihanna lands with “Pon de Replay” (#77), “If It’s Lovin’ That You Want” (#70), “Unfaithful” (#21) and “SOS” (#4). She recently got hailed as a National Hero in her native Barbados for her success as a recording artist, after the country became a republic.
*Paula DeAnda lands with “Doing Too Much” (#76). It features Baby Bash. Her other well known tracks included the follow-up and Top 5 track “Walk Away (Remember Me)” and her last to date, “Easy”, which has 2 versions, the main one featuring Lil Wayne and the radio version featuring Bow Wow.
*The P*ssycat Dolls have 4 tracks on this chart: “Don’t Cha” (#65), “Beep” (#44), “Stickwitu” (#22) and “Buttons” (#8). Pretty sure they could just been called “The Nicole Scherzinger Band” seeing as she did 90-95% of the singing.
*”Feel Good Inc.” (#62) is Gorillaz’ last Top 40 track to date. This was the first track I ever heard from them, after hearing snippets of it on commercials..
*KT Tunstall enters with her debut “Black Horse and the Cherry Tree” (#55). Another track I knew from Hot AC AT40 (it was even #1 on there), kinda had no idea this made it to CHR (peaked at #15 on R&R).
*Black Eyed Peas have back-to-back tracks: “Pump It” (#51) and “My Humps” (#50). The latter was…..interesting for a lack of a better term.
*Kanye West lands with his #1 (on R&R) track “Gold Digger” (#49). It features actor Jamie Foxx, who released his second album Unpredictable at that time (feeding off the success of his autobiogr*phical film of Ray Charles and in part, this track).
*Saving Jane, now known as Union Rose, lands with “Girl Next Door” (#47). It is from their second album of the same name, which was actually re-done to be more rock-sounding and re-released in 2006.
*T-Pain lands with “I'm N Luv (Wit a Dancer/Stripper)” (#46). It is a follow-up to his debut “I’m Sprung”, which didn't make this chart (it peaked at #12 on the aforementioned 1/28/06 chart). As for this one, I kinda get why they changed the “stripper” name to “dancer”. Dees made a Kidz Bop parody segment where the “kids” sang the original “stripper” version which was a bit cringey.
*Mariah Carey lands with “Don't Forget About Us” (#45), from a re-released version of her 2005 album The Emancipation of Mimi. It is also a follow up to “Shake It Off” (#71). “We Belong Together”, which was #1 for 2005, was played as an Extra.
*Bubba Sparxxx lands with his third and final Top 40 track “Ms New Booty” (#43). This one was the highest-peaking of his tracks on CHR (#8 on R&R). The beat is a bit similar to David Banner’s 2005 track “Play”, which peaked at #33 on R&R.
*Sean Paul lands with “(When You Gonna) Give It Up To Me” (#42) and “Temperature” (#6). The former is a re-done version featuring Keyshia Cole for the 2006 film Step Up.
*Cherish lands with their debut “Do It To It” (#35). This track references a bunch of r*p songs released at the time. It was also recently remade into a dance-house song by a DJ named Acraze.
*Gnarls Barkley land with “Crazy” (#32). They were a duo consisting of singer Cee-Lo Green and DJ Danger Mouse. Dees falsely claimed that it reached #1 (it did not, it peaked at #6 on his chart and on R&R and at #8 on AT40).
*JoJo lands with “Too Little, Too Late” (#30). The original versions of her first 2 albums (JoJo and The High Road) recently got released on streaming services, despite JoJo re-recording the albums in 2018 due to label disputes. She is also known for being the youngest artist to reach #1 on CHR, being aged 13 when her debut single “Leave (Get Out)” reached the position.
*Chamillionaire lands with “Ridin’ Dirty” (#26). Had no idea who he was but this track was pretty big at the time.
*”Right Here” (#23) is Staind’s last Top 40 track to date. They are on a semi-hiatus but continue to perform their songs live to this day.
*Daniel Powter lands with “Bad Day” (#18). This track went to #1 on the Hot 100, Hot AC and AC charts, same ordeal with James Blunt’s “You’re Beautiful” (#33). It was also used whenever someone gets eliminated on American Idol.
*Cassie Ventura lands with her debut single “Me & U” (#14). She was known for her 11 year relationship with P. Diddy, the head of Bad Boy (her label at the time). I have no idea if she’s still around to this day (probably at the indie scene).
*Mike Shinoda of Linkin Park, under the name Fort Minor, lands with “Where’d You Go” (#13), featuring Holly Brook (now known as Skylar Gray) and Jonah Matranga (never heard of him). Funny hearing this track on the Hot AC AT40 seeing that it has really no business being on there.
*Panic! At the Disco land with their CHR debut “I Write Sins Not Tragedies” (#12). It is now a solo project by lead singer Brendon Urie.
*”Be Without You” (#10) is Mary J. Bilge’s last Top 40 track to date. It was her second #1, the first being 2001’s “Family Affair”.
*Shakra falls short of #1 with “Hips Don’t Lie” (#2). It samples Jerry Rivera’s 1992 song “Amores Como El Nuestro”.
*Justin Timberlake snags the top spot for 2006 with his comeback hit “SexyBack”. The follow-up to this track was “My Love”(#48). “SexyBack” (and “Promiscuous”) also served as “launch pads” for a solo run for producer Timbaland, who then released his debut solo album Shock Value.
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Post by Mike on Dec 13, 2021 19:27:15 GMT -5
*Fergie enters with her first of 2 entries. "Fergalicious" (#100), the follow up to her solo debut "London Bridge (Oh Snap/S**t)" (#34). “London Bridge” had to have been the more successful track of the two seeing as I barely heard the former outside of Ryan Seacrest’s AT40 at the time. On the Hot 100, yes. But on the airplay charts "Fergalicious" peaked higher - and it was basically a case of "Fergalicious" was held to #2 by "Irreplaceable" on...pretty much any kind of CHR or similar chart you could think of (Mediabase, AT40, WT40, Hot 100, etc.). To get the kind of disparity like you're talking about, I can only surmise that stations in your area were REALLY on board with "London Bridge" and/or REALLY NOT on board with "Fergalicious". *Rob Thomas lands with his third solo track “Ever The Same” (#96). Very interesting seeing this track make it on to this chart despite it NEVER appearing on neither AT40 or WT40. It peaked at #33 on R&R. How it charted higher on Seacrest’s YE chart, we’ll never know. How it ranked higher, who can say - but as far as how it ranked at all, it has to be that both took cues from the regular Mediabase year-end chart (which, if I remember correctly, AT40 has now taken to using for at least the past few years instead of continuing to compile their own YE), where it ranked at #99 for the year. I still don’t get how their second (and last) track “Damaged” didn’t make Dees’ 2008 year-end chart. Actually, it did, and quite high (several notches higher than on AT40's) - #13. I think I know what happened here: Several songs in the year-end Top 100, both in 2006 and in 2008 (and, IIRC, in 2005 and 2007 as well), were treated as "optional extras". Due to being optional, if stations didn't play them, they'd just get skipped with likely not even a mention. In 2008, "Damaged" at #13 was one of those relegated to "optional extra" status. Because of that, that segment was likely produced in such a manner where you'd hear it and think "this song's an extra" - but, it wasn't. I...think, these were the "optional extras" from the 2006 countdown. For the first half, I'm basing it on if I'm reading the cue sheets correctly, for the second half, it's sort of more guess-work based on how the segments sounded, outside of the last one which was Mariah and is obviously so. They were: - #89 "Rompe"
- #76 "Doing Too Much"
- #64 "Breathe (2 AM)"
- #52 "So What"
- #38 "Gallery"
- #25 "What's Left of Me" (though it really doesn't sound like one)
- #13 "Where'd You Go" (this I'm pretty sure on, as it was No Nuttin'-ed)
- 2005's #1 song, "We Belong Together"
*Gwen Stefani lands with “Hollaback Girl” (#91). Hardly remember the “this is my uhhh” version used here (and, of course, Dees cut the first verse). Also guessing “Luxurious” (which actually peaked at #5 on 1/28/06) and “Crash” didn’t meet the “thresholds” I mentioned for slots here. RE: "Hollaback Girl" - I've heard the censored "uhhh" version much more over the years than the un-censored. RE: "Luxurious" - Another example of how it's apparent that Dees more took his cues from the other existing year-end charts as far as what goes in and what doesn't, as opposed to actually calculating one himself. The song lasted through March, easily deserving enough to rank for the year (again, certainly more than "Rompe" or "Gimme That"). "Crash" shot up to #14 but lasted just 8 weeks - on an actually-calculated, objective listing (which would obviously shed the recurrents that were long gone even by the start of the year, plus Rob Thomas, plus the other two), I can see that one missing out. *Rascal Flatts lands with a cover of the 2003 Mark Willis song “What Hurts the Most” (#86). It's on his album And the Crowd Goes Wild, which his biggest hit "19 Somethin' " comes from, but wasn't a single. Rascal Flatts were the first to have a single with it Stateside. Wasn’t a huge Chris Brown fan but remembered hearing 2 versions of “Run It!”, this one with Juelz Santana and another without. I was a bit surprised that he played the version with Juelz, radio here only ever played the one without. *”Dani California” (#81) is RHCP’s last Top 40 track to date. Their 2011 track “The Adventures Of Rain Dance Maggie”, which I never even heard, debuted and peaked at #50 on R&R on it’s sole week. Never heard it on mainstream CHR, but did hear it plenty on Rock radio and even a bit on Hot AC/Adult Top 40 (upon checking, it reached #19 on AT40 Hot AC). *Rihanna lands with “Pon de Replay” (#77), “If It’s Lovin’ That You Want” (played as an Extra), “Unfaithful” (#21) and “SOS” (#4). See above - "Lovin' " (#70) wasn't one of the optional extras. *Mike Shinoda of Linkin Park, under the name Fort Minor, lands with “Where’d You Go” (#13), featuring Holly Brook (now known as Skylar Gray) and Jonah Matranga (never heard of him). Funny hearing this track on the Hot AC AT40 seeing that it has really no business being on there. I see that it reached #30 in that countdown - sonically, I see your point (Linkin Park's "In the End" only made it to #15 on Hot AC, and except for "Breaking the Habit" spending a week at #37, they wouldn't be back until 2007). I'm guessing the song's subject matter - a relationship headed for a breaking point because of the lover's career - is what helped it get as far as it did. “SexyBack” (and “Promiscuous”) also served as “launch pads” for a solo run for producer Timbaland, who then released his debut solo album Shock Value. Shock Value is, and isn't, his debut. It could be considered his debut in the sense of it's his first album that's more in the vein of any other singer - where he at least sings most of the songs ("Apologize", which is a remix of OneRepublic's original, being an obvious exception). Where it's not his debut is in that it's not the first album he released himself. In 1998, he released Tim's Bio: From The Motion Picture - Life From Da Bassment, which is in fact a collection of tracks where he produced all of them. Sometimes he did actually sing on those songs, other times he didn't - certainly, a lot less so than on Shock Value. It did spawn two Rhythmic-charting singles in "Keep it Real" and "Here We Come", albeit neither were that much of a hit.
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Post by laura on Dec 14, 2021 12:21:58 GMT -5
*Rascal Flatts lands with a cover of the 2003 Mark Willis song “What Hurts the Most” (#86). Wow I was today years old when I found out that song was actually a cover.
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Post by Mike on Dec 20, 2021 13:40:12 GMT -5
Some notes: Good chance tokyoguy will link us to a cue sheet for this Christmas show soon enough - but in the meantime, the Calling and Vertical Horizon songs were said to be on an album called Holiday Sounds of the Season, also said to be on sale right now. Upon checking, two albums with this title were issued, in 2001 and 2002 - the 2002 tracklist checks out. (Others, such as Christina's "The Christmas Song" and Toni Braxton's "Christmas Time is Here" are also on there, but those two each existed separately prior to 2002.) In any case, that alone is enough to verify this being 2002 (starting with the "Hot in Herre" parody would also indicate this can't be any earlier). Also new this year: - Vanessa Carlton "Greensleeves" (on Maybe This Christmas, which also had Barenaked Ladies & Sarah McLachlan's "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen", but that was recorded in August 1996)
- Rob Thomas "A New York Christmas" (apparently was 2002)
- B2K featuring Marques Houston "Everyone's Home For Christmas" (on Santa Hooked Me Up)
- Stevie Wonder & India.Arie "The Christmas Song" (on bonus special editions and a Target limited edition of her Voyage to India, which was released in September)
Also, Rick says "Merry Christmas (Wherever You Are)" is from "The Mystery Caroler" - but upon trying to find that song myself, the truth will leave you saying, "of course he said that." Because, of course, Rick sang that himself with the Cast of Idiots. (What, you were expecting him to own up to it?) It's on his 1985 album I'm Not Crazy. Shania Twain's "God Bless the Child" is not a Christmas song, per se - rather, it was the 8th and final single off The Woman in Me, though it was issued as the holidays were approaching. Between the timing and its being an 8th single, radio stiffed it, but sales allowed it to reach #75 on the Hot 100. Would you believe that "The Magic of Christmas Day (God Bless Us Everyone)" - one of the Celine Dion songs from These Are Special Times - was written by Dee Snider? Because it was! The segment where Jewel was "in the studio" to talk about the Christmas version of "Hands", along with its parent album Joy: A Holiday Collection, was obviously recycled, as it's from 1999. (The Rob Thomas song, however, appears to in fact be new for this one - several sources all credit it to 2002.) Lastly, a note about "Heaven". During its countdown run, it was credited to DJ Sammy & Yanou featuring Do, as was the original dance remake - but in fact, the Candlelight Mix is actually a Do solo record; the two DJs weren't involved at all (though it was indeed recorded in response to the remake being a hit). Also, December 14 was the last regular countdown of the year for both Casey and Rick - and in both places, this "Heaven" was sitting at #34 (where it peaked).
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Post by tokyoguy2021 on Dec 20, 2021 22:46:59 GMT -5
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Post by Mike on Jan 3, 2022 10:41:58 GMT -5
So, evidently they must have kept the same theme package for Countdown America all the way up to the end. Speaking of which: I wondered when exactly the end was, before it changed to the U.S. Music Survey. Thanks to the Dick Clark Papers - currently held by Syracuse University (his alma mater, dont'cha know!) - we have an answer, and in fact it really is that simple: Countdown America finished out the year 1994 (with December 31 being the last one), and then - quite possibly due to its having become a Westwood One property due to their purchase of Unistar - Dick simply started up the U.S. Music Survey to begin 1995, and to have a countdown on his own terms. (Not all that unlike what Casey himself would do with re-starting AT40 in 1998, though of course those circumstances weren't quite the same as Dick's here.) Concurrently, Dick Clark and Nick Verbitsky formed a new incarnation of the United Stations Radio Networks back in February - which, of course, would handle distribution for the U.S. Music Survey. I imagine that despite the demise of Unistar (having been merged into Westwood One, which was completed in April), the contract for Countdown America ran through the end of this year, thus why the timing of changeover is what it is. Or, at a minimum, Westwood One couldn't go on distributing competing shows from both Casey and Dick, nor could Dick stand to continue with the arrangement he was now in. Incidentally: Nick is not only still around, he remains CEO of USRN to this day! Additional sourcing: worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Music/Billboard/90s/1994/BB-1994-12-24.pdf#page=170 (It's the same Networks & Syndication Billboard column that I linked to for Shadoe's 12/24/94.) With it being quite evident that Billboard's AC chart was mirroring R&R's Hot AC chart (rather than the regular AC chart, heard here) more and more, I'm not going to bother with another comparison vs. their chart on this one. But on that note - gee, Kathy Troccoli didn't miss too much of a beat here. ("Tell Me Where it Hurts" was headed for the exit on the Casey's Countdown we heard from 8/20, and now here she debuts with a follow-up.) DROPPERS: "(I Could Only) Whisper Your Name" by Harry Connick, Jr. (which might have been a one-week wonder) and "The Way She Loves Me" by Richard Marx - last week's bottom two. "Good Times" had, in fact, already come and gone from CT40 (it went 36-37-40-off the previous month). The short cold open for "Come to My Window" signifies that it's the album version of the song, cut out for radio play elsewhere/single promotion. Incidentally, while it may have been going back up this week, it wouldn't last, as it'd be gone by the end of the year. (Meanwhile, it was already gone from CT40, ostensibly pulled off the chart by R&R.) But, while I'm at it... GOING NOWHERE FAST: We heard Joshua Kadison at #17 and Melissa Etheridge at #16 here. Guess where each one was on that Casey's Countdown back in August? In sort of a hilarious twist, while Dick Clark played "We Didn't Start the Fire" here, guess what Casey played on his Countdown? "Another Day in Paradise"! (Though, that'd be as an Extra, since he didn't play songs that were debuting X years ago this week.) As a solo artist, Lauren Christy would ultimately have a few AC hits, and that's it - but in the background, she was a part of The Matrix, who are of course best known for being at the helm of Avril Lavigne's Let Go, plus a few additional hits by other acts in 2003. This would be the final week on the CHR chart altogether for Huey Lewis & The News, as "But It's Alright" stepped down one to #39 on CT40. "Secret" was also the week's Biggest Mover on CT40, by a good mile - rocketing up from #30 to #8 there. (Oddly enough, on AT40, Bon Jovi's "Always" managed to tie her: She jumped 26-11, while they jumped 30-15.) Lastly: These songs would still be around when the U.S. Music Survey took over from the ashes of Countdown America - besides the Preview track "Secret", there was "If I'm Not in Love", "I'll Make Love to You" (which would follow Elton at #1), and this week's Top 2 of "Lucky One" and "Circle of Life". "All I Wanna Do" and "When Can I See You" would also be there, albeit for just that week - they were the two songs to drop out on 1/14. Of these, only "Lucky One" was also in the Casey's Countdown we heard from August - but, of course, that was the week she sailed into the survey at #12.
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Post by tokyoguy2021 on Jan 17, 2022 4:25:30 GMT -5
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Post by Mike on Jan 17, 2022 10:52:49 GMT -5
DROPPER: Peabo Bryson's "Can You Stand the Rain" (LW: 17).
Starting with "If This is It" for the Huey Lewis & The News spotlight was no accident - it was their first Top 5 AC hit, let alone first song to even chart at AC at all.
"Since I Don't Have You" would be Ronnie Milsap's final AC hit (it was also his first since, appropriately enough, "Lost in the Fifties Tonight") - and then, two and a half years later, it would be the final CHR countdown hit for Guns N' Roses (reaching #31 on CT40 two months before R&R chart-changed). Ten years prior, it was also one of the last Pop and AC hits for Don McLean ("Castles in the Air" was his last on both counts).
But speaking of Ronnie, even as "Endless Love" was sitting atop the AC chart, Ronnie's "(There's) No Gettin' Over Me" was trying like hell to push it out - ultimately, without success. (In R&R, he spent 4 weeks at #2 before finally giving it up, while in Billboard, he got up to #2 on their last week at #1 - only for "Arthur's Theme" to leapfrog him the following week. In R&R, Christopher Cross would leapfrog Eddie Rabbitt's "Step By Step" to knock Ross & Richie off the top.)
On AT40, Shadoe did that same comparison with "Emotions" versus The Emotions two weeks before this - though, Dick Clark used a longer clip of The Emotions here.
With uptempo tracks (such as "Love and Understanding", "Emotions", "Every Heartbeat", "Time, Love, and Tenderness", and #1 "The Motown Song") and tracks with distinctive rock flavors ("The Real Love", "It Hit Me Like a Hammer", even "Something to Talk About", "(Everything I Do) I Do it For You" and "Fading Like a Flower" - though the latter again had its friendlier Gatica mix played), AC was definitely "Hot" at this time in 1991. Perhaps this is why Dick would pick perhaps the most rocking of Billy Joel's hits from 1983 to 1990 to flash back to (of his AC hits from "Tell Her About It" to "I Go to Extremes", "A Matter of Trust" was one of just two to miss the AC Top 10 [the other was "The Night is Still Young"], and was the one to peak the lowest).
You could say that the week's Spotlight on Huey Lewis & The News lent itself to a "Hot" AC as well - though having said that, with their current hit included, they managed to play every single Top 10 AC hit that Huey had had up to this point.
Even as Bryan Adams was talking about his ballads having an easier time getting played, his rocking follow-up "Can't Stop This Thing We Started" was the week's highest debut over on CT40, at #30 - enroute to going Top 3 on both CHR countdowns. But on the subject of having a tougher time getting played, that may and may not be true - while that did get to #3 on R&R and would spend 2 weeks atop their small-market airplay chart (with smaller markets being friendlier to rock hits), it only reached #14 on Billboard's Top 40 Radio Monitor (which at that point leaned the opposite way; it also stopped at #11 in R&R's large-market airplay chart).
Both Aaron Neville and Michael Bolton would make beelines to AC #1s next week - but on Countdown America, Aaron would leapfrog Michael, thus shutting him out in R&R. (So, if I heard the end right, next week would make for a likely rare instance where the week's Spotlight was also having the new #1 song.) Michael would have to settle for a Billboard-only #1 (which would then be followed by Aaron) - "(Everything I Do) I Do it For You" was still #1 there this week; "The Motown Song" stopped at #3.
And it's only fitting that Dick would pick "Live For Loving You" as this week's possible future hit - he said that Rod Stewart, at #1, had had four of his last five singles all get there. Well, guess what? Four of Gloria Estefan's last five also hit #1! (The lone hiccup was "Oye Mi Canto (Hear My Voice)", which only reached #24 - I don't count "Seal Our Fate", as while that barely scratched Billboard's AC chart at #44, it didn't even chart on R&R's.) And as it happens, "Live For Loving You" would go on to make it five of her last six - and it would do that very quickly! Just five weeks later, that rocketed to #1.
And by the way, that would cap Gloria's banner 1991 at AC - where you could make the case that she was the biggest hitmaker of the year. She was the only one to have three #1 AC hits, and in turn landed more weeks at #1 than anyone else. (Amy Grant had two with three weeks apiece for a total of six, and "(Everything I Do) I Do it For You" also spent six weeks all by itself. Michael Bolton also had two, but together they only combined for four weeks. Gloria's three, however, combined for a total of seven weeks.) And her three would catapult her into second place among women with the most #1 AC hits - including Miami Sound Machine's "Words Get in the Way", 1991's three would bring her total to 9, behind only Barbra Streisand with 10.
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Post by adam31 on Jan 17, 2022 17:36:50 GMT -5
On AT40, Shadoe did that same comparison with "Emotions" versus The Emotions two weeks before this - though, Dick Clark used a longer clip of The Emotions here. Did a certain writer of both shows have something to do with that?And by the way, that would cap Gloria's banner 1991 at AC - where you could make the case that she was the biggest hitmaker of the year. She was the only one to have three #1 AC hits, and in turn landed more weeks at #1 than anyone else. (Amy Grant had two with three weeks apiece for a total of six, and "(Everything I Do) I Do it For You" also spent six weeks all by itself. Michael Bolton also had two, but together they only combined for four weeks. Gloria's three, however, combined for a total of seven weeks.) And her three would catapult her into second place among women with the most #1 AC hits - including Miami Sound Machine's "Words Get in the Way", 1991's three would bring her total to 9, behind only Barbra Streisand with 10. Did Gloria ever catch "Babs"? You would think she had a real chance, but I'm not seeing any other Billboard AC #1s at least..."Turn The Beat Around", "Everlasting Love" Or "I see "your Smile" would have the greatest chances.,
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Post by Mike on Jan 17, 2022 22:33:23 GMT -5
Did Gloria ever catch "Babs"? You would think she had a real chance, but I'm not seeing any other Billboard AC #1s at least..."Turn The Beat Around", "Everlasting Love" Or "I see "your Smile" would have the greatest chances., Worth noting first: Those are actually R&R totals - at least, for everything from March 1974 onward. I cite R&R for this since there has never been any AC countdowns that used Billboard. This matters in as much as, for example, "Don't Wanna Lose You" reached #1 in R&R but was held to #2 in Billboard ("Right Here Waiting" spent 6 weeks at #1 there). But to answer the question, no she did not. Actually, for her, from 1991 she all but fell off the cliff completely - she's had just one #1 since then, 1999's "Music of My Heart" with 'N Sync. But Barbra would have one more as well, 1996's "I Finally Found Someone" with Bryan Adams. And that would prove consequential in another regard... See, while Gloria leaped to second place among women in 1991, the woman she displaced for that mark was about to do big things herself the following year - the following two years, in fact. Because that woman, was Whitney Houston - who did score her 8th AC #1 in 1991, with "All the Man That I Need". The Bodyguard would give her two more ("I Will Always Love You" and "I Have Nothing"), which created a tie with Babs. Then Whitney broke the tie in 1995 with "Exhale (Shoop Shoop)" - so, "I Finally Found Someone" was Babs's way of restoring their tie. But then Whitney broke it again, this time for good - and we heard the evidence of that last year, in the form of "I Believe in You and Me" (we heard the U.S. Music Survey where that hit #1, 2/1/97). So in the end, Whitney would reign as the queen of AC - that is, until someone else came calling. And you can probably guess who that would be. I will also note: The leader among all singers is, of course, Elton John. But in fact, he was also trailing Babs for a while too - actually, in 1991, they were tied. He broke that tie in 1992 with his two ("Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me" and "The One"), and there would be no looking back as he'd go on having at least one (often two) #1 for each subsequent year of the 90s, through 1999's "Written in the Stars" with LeAnn Rimes. "Stars" is his 21st #1 AC song to date - if his current single with Dua Lipa, "Cold Heart", were to get there, that'd be #22. (But it faces a difficult challenge, IMO, in the form of Adele's "Easy on Me".)
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Post by adam31 on Jan 24, 2022 14:50:24 GMT -5
Great to hear CVD but what was the deal with terrible edits on AT40 in 1988? In this show "Honestly" then later in the year "Foolish Beat"...Two of the worst edits I've heard to this day on any syndicated show.
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