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Post by adam31 on Jul 12, 2021 7:20:02 GMT -5
I just learned that the BBC apparently has no censorship...
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Post by Mike on Jul 12, 2021 9:18:17 GMT -5
I just learned that the BBC apparently has no censorship... They definitely do (as would any broadcasting organization), but standards, of course, vary by location.
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Post by roadrunner on Jul 12, 2021 10:10:28 GMT -5
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Post by at40fansince1984 on Jul 12, 2021 10:41:06 GMT -5
I wish there was some copies of a show I recorded of a St. Louis station "The Hip-Hop Countdown & Report" it was a network show that counted down the Top 15 from first Billboard's R-a-p Singles Charts & then The Gavin Report charts. I have a dozen or so but they were recorded about 100 miles or so away & the reception was not the best.
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Post by at40fansince1984 on Jul 12, 2021 10:45:36 GMT -5
I just learned that the BBC apparently has no censorship... I think N**** & F*** were but @ss & Sh!t got by a few times. I don't know but you can bet your @ss those jams beats the F*** out of the Sh!t they call R-A-P now.
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Post by jokinla on Jul 15, 2021 18:40:58 GMT -5
Is the folder from the first page where files can be found? I just see a CT40 from 92. Thanks
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Post by adam31 on Jul 17, 2021 10:06:48 GMT -5
Is the folder from the first page where files can be found? I just see a CT40 from 92. Thanks There are no "files". The first post is a link to a drive where you can upload shows you'd like to be aired Mondays at 8 Eastern. You can upload a syndicated show or your own original show.
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Post by tokyoguy2021 on Jul 17, 2021 11:36:21 GMT -5
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Post by saltyhylian on Jul 17, 2021 20:44:46 GMT -5
It’s not often that I do an insight for a show that’s not a Casey AT40. This one was a doozy for me so it took me a while to type so here we go : Dees’ WT40 Top 100 of 2008 insight (from 7/4/21 LD) *Anybody else feeling old thanks to the Blockbuster ads? There’s still only one left in existence so it’s still fitting. *Several artists “visit” Dees’ studio, including Kanye West, Katy Perry, Chris Brown, Fergie, Mariah Carey and Rihanna. These “visits” were commonplace in the WT40. *White-haired Welshwoman Duffy starts off with ”Mercy” (#100). A remix featuring G-Unit alumnus The Game was also released for Rhythmic stations. *”Check Yes Juliet (Run Baby Run)” (#98) was We The Kings’ debut track. They are a punk rock band from Florida. Never even heard of them until their third Top 40 track “We’ll Be a Dream” with Demi Lovato in 2010. *”Cry For You (You'll Never See Me Again)” (#95: skipped track) was Petra Marklund’s (under the name September) sole Top 40 track in the US. *T.I. and Rihanna’s “Live Your Life” (#91) samples O-Zone’s “Dragostea Din Tei (Ma Ya Hi)”. *American Idol Season 7 winner David Cook lands at #90 with “The Time of Your Life”. This entered and peaked at #3 on the Hot 100, while peaking at #7 on Billboard’s Hot AC charts. *Miley Cyrus landed at both #88 with “7 Things” and #16 with her first Top 40 track “See You Again”. The latter is included on the double album “Hannah Montana 2: Meet Miley Cyrus”. She also makes a quick phone-in appearance prior to the former. *Cherish’s Killa (#85; skipped track) was their third and last Top 40 track to date. It is from the soundtrack to the film Step Up 2. They first appeared on Da Brat’s sole Top 40 track “In Luv wit Chu” in 2003. *Bajan singer Shontelle lands at #82 with “T-Shirt”. Only track of hers I’ve ever heard was “Impossible” in 2010 so it was my first-time hearing this one. *”Into The Night” (#78) is Santana’s last Top 40 track to date. It featured Chad Kroeger of “unpopular” band Nickelback. *New Kids on the Block land at #68 with “Summertime”, their first single since 1994’s “Never Let You Go” and their first Top 40 track since 1992’s “If You Go Away”. Dees explained what each member had been up to after their 1994 disbandment, while also playing a snippet of Jordan Knight’s 1999 solo Top 40 track “Give It To You”. *American Idol Season 7 runner-up David Archuleta’s “Crush” lands at #62. Pretty funny that he shares the same first name with aforementioned winner David Cook. *“Whatever You Like” (#61) was T.I.’s first Top 40 solo track ( well, not really but that one never appeared on AT40 or WT40). Notice the word “Brain” is intact (which has a double meaning the way T.I. used it) while the radio version omits it completely and, like this version, was retooled with different lyrics on it’s chorus. *Sri Lankan-British r*pper M.I.A. lands her “Paper Planes” at #59. This is a radio version that muffles the gunshots and added a “boom!” sound effect (thought this was something Seacrest made up when I first heard this version on a AT40 show this was in, as my pop stations used the original version). To date, this was her only Top 40 track solo. *Daniel Bedingfield’s little sister Natasha lands 2 slots with both “Love Like This” (#58) and “Pocketful of Sunshine (Take Me Away)” (#11). They both appear on her album of the latter track’s same name. The former featured Sean Kingston, who also landed a spot with “Take You There” (#27). *British singer Estelle Swaray lands at #54 with “American Boy”. This version featured Kanye West, while several pop stations (mine included) played the original UK version without West. This was her first and sole Top 40 track in the US. *”Sweetest Girl (Dollar Bill)” (#49) was Wyclef Jean’s first ( well technically) and only Top 40 track to date. It featured Akon, Lil Wayne and someone named Niia. *”Cyclone” (#47; skipped track) is Baby Bash’s last top 40 track to date. Pretty sure this was a sleeper hit at least on the pop charts. *Timbaland and Keri Hilton land at #43 with “The Way I Are”, which was a #1 track during 2007. *Colby O’Donis snagged a spot with ”What You Got” (#41; skipped track). He is also featured in the Lady Gaga track “Just Dance” and featured artist Akon’s “Beautiful”. *Taylor Swift’s first pop track “Teardrops in My Guitar” lands at #40. This was when she was in her original country-pop genre. *Emo band Secondhand Serenade lands at #31 with “Fall for You”. *Flyleaf’s “All Around Me” (#28; skipped track) was originally released in 2007, then crossed-over to R&R’s pop chart in February 2008 (peaking at #15 on that chart in June of that year). *”Lollipop” (#24) was Lil Wayne’s first solo Top 40 track. As Dees said, this was a pretty controversial track on account of it’s risqué lyrics. It was also a #1 on the Hot 100 for 5 non-consecutive weeks. Featured artist Static Major died on 2/25/08, 2 weeks before the song’s release. *Gavin DeGraw lands at #21 with “I’m In Love With A Girl”. Felt that he sounded a bit different compared to his earlier tracks “I Don’t Wanna Be” and “Chariot” when first hearing this one in 2009. *Metro Station lands at #18 with “Shake It”. They were founded by frontman Mason Musso and guitarist Trace Cyrus, the brother of Miley Cyrus. *OneRepublic lands at #15 with “Stop and Stare”. They are also featured on Timbaland’s “Apologize” (#2). *”I Kissed a Girl” (#14) was Katy Perry’s debut track. It was the most sung-along track of 2008. Perry did not hit #1 until her follow-up “Hot-N-Cold” (#56). *Surprised to hear Danity Kane’s “Damaged” as an Extra as it peaked well in the Top 10 on WT40 (#6 I think). Maybe it didn’t spend enough weeks? *Jesse McCartney lands at #3 with his first #1 track “Leavin’”. It was the start of a more R&B-leaning focus for McCartney. *The X-Factor UK season 3 winner Leona Lewis lands with “Bleeding Love”, the WT40 #1 track of 2008 and her follow-up “Better In Time” (#34). The former peaked at #1 for 8 weeks on the WT40.
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Post by Mike on Jul 19, 2021 21:50:50 GMT -5
Chart: worldradiohistory.com/Archive-RandR/1990s/1991/RR-1991-08-16.pdf#page=92I knew we'd had another US Music Survey from around this time (and later than June)...I just didn't think it had been nearly 4 months ago already. For reference: wbmeprograms.proboards.com/thread/549/listener-depot?page=2&scrollTo=7621Still, that previous show being from August 3 means that show's chart (what remains from it, anyway) will be in the "3 WKS" (3 weeks ago) column on the chart page. For that show, I named the "future countdown hit" pick from the Moody Blues as a "swing and a miss". This week bears that out, as it slides 25-29 on the chart. Not to say I told you so, but... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Elsewhere on the chart: "Since I Don't Have You" is, yes, a cover of the Skyliners hit from 1958, also covered in 1981 by Don McLean and in 1994 by Guns N' Roses. It would be Ronnie Milsap's last countdown appearance anywhere outside of Country, if barely - reaching #18 here in September. Onto the countdown... Neither the fair damsel nor the lady in waiting would ultimately succeed in knocking the hero off his throne - instead, as I mentioned for the previous show, it would be his future fellow Musketeer, Rod Stewart. Diminishing returns in the countdown this week, as former #2 "More Than Words" drops out to make room for a song that has a 2-week stay - Celine "not yet the Queen of AC" Dion's "The Last to Know" spends two weeks at #18, and that's it. "Too Many Walls" is the hit that would see Cathy Dennis welcomed back with a pair of Top 10s in 1993, for it would go all the way to #1 here. Turns out that we got the Gatica Mix of "Fading Like a Flower" in this show - where Gatica refers to producer/engineer Humberto Gatica, whose resume might as well read as a Who's Who of AC. But, don't take my word for it...Incidentally, if I remember correctly, the original album version was in the August 3 show, wasn't it? "Can You Stop the Rain" was last week's #1 song on the Urban (R&B) chart. I'm not 100% on this, but I think "It Ain't Over 'Til It's Over" is Lenny Kravitz's one and only appearance on an AC countdown. But that doesn't include "Hot" AC of course, where among other hits, "Again" went to #1 on AT20 Hot AC in 2001. (In checking his Billboard AC history, though, I find only one other charter - "Lady" going to #26 in 2005, so I'm not inclined to think he had any more on R&R's regular AC chart - or at least, not any that would have reached a countdown.) Speaking of which, "Misunderstanding" seems like a rather "hot" choice for a Genesis spotlight pick. (It did chart on Billboard's AC chart, but only reached #32 there.) Michael Bolton's one and only Top 10 miss to this point? "(Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay", which stopped at #14. ("Walk Away", the last single off The Hunger that only reached #14 in Billboard, made it to #8 in R&R.) Ha! Who knew we'd get "Notice Me", of all songs, as an "X years ago" extra? I mentioned last week for 1990 (incidentally, its last week on AT40) that Nikki is married to Martika - she kicks off this week's CT40 with her last hit, "Love...Thy Will Be Done". An unusually uptempo Top 5 this week, for AC standards (the giant #1 notwithstanding). That's an interesting production move to have this week's guest host voice the promo for next week's show. I'm not sure without checking if Bette Midler would ever reach the AC Top 10 again, but unlike with the Moody Blues, "The Gift of Love" would at least reach the countdown (it made it to #15). And it's certainly a better pick than the only other chart debut this week, "Learning to Fly", which barely scr'aped the AC chart at all. As it happens, the song was written by Tom Kelly, Billy Steinberg, and Susanna Hoffs. (They also wrote Susanna's "My Side of the Bed" from earlier in the year.)
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Post by at40fansince1984 on Jul 22, 2021 18:19:25 GMT -5
I put a couple shows in the Depot 1 is a mix from the local community station WQNA The Edge 88.3 from 2011 by DJ CLO with a mix of early 90's Hip-Hop of 2 hrs 15 minutes & the other is a 2019 show from KBMB 103.5 out of California that's a mix of 80's & 90's Hip-Hop & R&B songs in mixes with some by request by DJ Tosh with Jay Marzz that's 1 hr 45 minutes that I thought could be played together or seperate.
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Post by adam31 on Jul 23, 2021 6:47:55 GMT -5
I put a couple shows in the Depot 1 is a mix from the local community station WQNA The Edge 88.3 from 2011 by DJ CLO with a mix of early 90's Hip-Hop of 2 hrs 15 minutes & the other is a 2019 show from KBMB 103.5 out of California that's a mix of 80's & 90's Hip-Hop & R&B songs in mixes with some by request by DJ Tosh with Jay Marzz that's 1 hr 45 minutes that I thought could be played together or seperate. Cool, send it in! We DO play r-a-p and hip-hop! EDIT: Oh I see they are already in there...
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Post by Mike on Jul 26, 2021 21:51:45 GMT -5
Countdown: Basically none of the falling songs had chart movement given, so I didn't include movement here.
30 Greg Guidry - Goin' Down 29 Alabama - Take Me Down 28 Huey Lewis & The News - Hope You Love Me Like You Say You Do 27 Deniece Williams - It's Gonna Take a Miracle 26 Neil Diamond - Be Mine Tonight 25 Barry Manilow - Let's Hang On 24 Vangelis - Chariots of Fire 23 Ronnie Milsap - Any Day Now 22 Donnie Iris - My Girl 21 John Denver - Shanghai Breezes 20 Karla Bonoff - Personally 19 Bertie Higgins - Just Another Day in Paradise 18 Gordon Lightfoot - Baby Step Back 17 Sheena Easton - When He Shines 16 Dionne Warwick & Johnny Mathis - Friends in Love 15 Franke & The Knockouts - Without You 14 Paul Davis - '65 Love Affair 13 Rick Springfield - Don't Talk to Strangers 12 Eddie Rabbitt - I Don't Know Where to Start 11 Charlene - I've Never Been to Me 10 Juice Newton - Love's Been a Little Bit Hard on Me 9 Hall & Oates - Did it in a Minute 8 Elton John - Empty Garden (Hey Hey Johnny) 7 Willie Nelson - Always on My Mind 6 Simon & Garfunkel - Wake Up Little Susie 5 The Little River Band - Man on Your Mind 4 Toto - Rosanna 3 Dan Fogelberg - Run For the Roses 2 Roberta Flack - Making Love 1 Paul McCartney & Stevie Wonder - Ebony and Ivory
So...Weekly Music Magazine must have been some amalgamation (mixture) of multiple charts - yes, they were the ones that used "the countdown computer" as their own in-house chart, but...well...here's just some observations.
This had, at a minimum, a very heavy AC lean - which would explain a vast majority of this countdown. "Hope You Love Me Like You Say You Do", "My Girl", "Without You", and "Don't Talk to Strangers" wouldn't touch that chart, but all the rest did. (Huey Lewis & The News did not even touch AC until "If This is It", while Donnie Iris never did - and I don't think Franke & The Knockouts did, either. Rick Springfield certainly didn't with any of his 80s hit string.) Both Greg Guidry and Barry Manilow are already off the Hot 100 (Greg falling off this week), and each plummets 30 or more notches on Cash Box in the last week on the chart for both. They are both, however, STILL on R&R's AC chart (also Top 30) - as is John Denver, roughly a week behind them in descent.
Conversely, Alabama was not yet Top 30 anywhere CHR-wise, while this would only be the second week on R&R for Huey Lewis (who, I notice, apparently needed an audio replacement).
Even more conversely, notice how there's no Human League, Ray Parker Jr., Tommy Tutone, Asia, or Joan Jett - all of whom had current Top 10 CHR hits.
Deniece Williams, meanwhile, was easily higher than this on Billboard, Cash Box, even on AC. (But, "It's Gonna Take a Miracle" would not even chart on R&R's CHR chart at all.)
"Chariots of Fire" was still up at #11 on Cash Box, but this was the week it swan-dived off AT40. (On AC, it was just about at the exit.)
"Any Day Now" had a rank much more comparable to CHR than to AC, however, as Ronnie was knocking on the #1 door there. (He'd spend 3 weeks on top.) So did "When He Shines", up to #6 on AC. So did "Rosanna", on the other end of the spectrum, as that wouldn't hit R&R's AC chart until next week - and even there, didn't go Top 10.
"Just Another Day in Paradise", of course, did not reach any CHR-only Top 40 at all (stopping in the 40s on Billboard and Cash Box) - but it did go Top 10 AC. Nor did "Baby Step Back" (didn't even sniff a CHR Top 40, reached #12 on R&R AC). "Friends in Love", meanwhile, barely reached AT40 (#38) and was sitting at #9 over on AC.
That must have been some countdown computer...the only chart where "'65 Love Affair" even came close to #1 was in R&R's CHR chart, held to #2 for two weeks behind "Don't Talk to Strangers".
"Did it in a Minute" was basically an AC flop, though it wouldn't be until later that Hall & Oates started having hits there (their first Top 10 on Billboard's AC chart wouldn't be until "One on One" - "Minute" only reached #29). So too was "Man on Your Mind" (#26 on Billboard AC, appears to have not reached R&R's) - actually, the Time Exposure hits fared rather poorly compared to LRB's similar-performing CHR hits. That is to say, the hits from that album fared comparably in line with their other CHR hits, but fared much less well at AC compared with both previous and future hits.
"Empty Garden", "Man on Your Mind", and "Making Love" are also all ranked higher here than any of them would ever reach on Billboard, Cash Box, or R&R (AC or CHR).
Other notes:
The mix of CHR and AC makes Weekly Music Magazine a bit of a strange successor to the Weekly Top 30 if you ask me, as wasn't the Weekly Top 30 more straight-ahead CHR? I guess you could maybe call it the first ever "Hot AC" countdown?...if that makes any sense for 1982. It'd take a few years even after the "spin-off" of Hot AC in the mid-90s for "hotter" songs (like the ones I mentioned above that didn't touch 1982's AC) to really start making their mark at Hot AC, though.
Were there other countdown shows using interview clips as heavily before this point, or is Weekly Music Magazine considered to have led the way in that?
Charlie's story about the financial aspects of marriage put me in mind of the "Love Is" LDD from last month's 6/19/93, whose writer wrote in because he was as-yet unable to afford the Papua New Guinean "bride prize", despite that he loved his wife and family very much.
Charlie also referred to Johnny Mathis's former chart longevity record - which, of course, would be broken later this same year by "Tainted Love".
Did "Without You" also have audio replacement, or did it just sound that much better there?
Very surprised that "Making Love" reached #2 here - but I'm guessing it didn't go to the top, as at this point, it's just peaked at AC and is about to peak at CHR, whereas "Ebony and Ivory" is just unstoppable at the time of this show, plus here comes "Rosanna"...
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Post by adam31 on Jul 27, 2021 5:55:58 GMT -5
Seems Charlie stole the "countdown computer" from Mark Elliot and then reprogrammed it to only spit out AC tunes lol.
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Post by Mike on Aug 2, 2021 9:49:48 GMT -5
Chart: worldradiohistory.com/Archive-RandR/1990s/1997/RR-1997-02-07.pdf#page=66Ha, in the first promo for the week, Dick talks about someone who may debut with a second hit - which has to refer to Bryan Adams, who does have the week's highest debut on the entire chart at #25 with "I'll Always Be Right There". In the countdown, however, this turns out to be a debut-less week - no debuts, no droppers. Tell your friends! Strangely, "S.O.S." isn't listed among Peter's singles on either Wiki or even in Billboard's own website system - I'd wonder if it somehow didn't even chart on Billboard AC, but they account for even lesser Christmas singles that briefly showed up on the chart (not even in the Top 30), so I'm thinking it's instead an oversight on their part. Incidentally, both "S.O.S." and "Still in Love" each backward bullet one place this week - Peter gains just 2 spins this week, Lionel gains just 4. Peter's pushed back by "All By Myself", far and away the week's fastest-moving song (up seven, 20-13), Lionel's pushed back by "Valentine" - both of the bigger gainers will be on their way to #1. Celine, by the way, has the week's biggest spin gain at +412, just edging out Bryan's debut at +407. Huey Lewis & The News, meanwhile, have easily the week's biggest spin loss (-339), one of only three triple-digit losses on the entire chart - and Celine has both of the other two (one below the countdown). "100 Years From Now", incidentally, would be it for The News in the AC countdowns - 2001's "Let Her Go and Start Over", upon checking, would stop at #21 just before 9/11. (Note that this does not count Huey's solo duet with Gwyneth Paltrow, of course.) R. Kelly would, of course, later write "The World's Greatest" for the film about Muhammad Ali (titled Ali), though that didn't touch AC. (Actually, "I Believe I Can Fly" is one of just two AC countdown hits for R. Kelly - the other, of course, is "I'm Your Angel".) Kind of funny that Celine Dion is this week's Spotlight, and this week she kicks off Hour 2 with her two current hits back to back. Dick talks about "Change the World" not going anywhere anytime soon - at this time, the AC chart recurrent rule is a bit complicated to explain. The rule, as printed, stated that songs that were down or flat (even) in spins for 3 consecutive weeks and below #15 would be moved to recurrent. The complicated part is how exactly they would have interpreted that, as this week will be it for "Fly Like an Eagle" and "I Love You Always Forever". "You Can Make History (Young Again)" appears to meet the criteria for losing spins for 3 weeks, but remains at #16 next week. More than meeting that criteria is "100 Years From Now", and that does also drop out of the countdown, but remains on the chart at #23. So...was that an error? Was there an additional recurrent rule that just wasn't printed, like having to be on the chart for X number of weeks before the "3 consecutive weeks of losing spins" rule kicked in? "For the First Time" would be on its way to #1, and it just might be Kenny Loggins's only AC countdown #1 - his only other AC #1 is 1983's "Heart to Heart" (which was a R&R-only #1), but I'm not sure if there were any AC countdowns in early 1983. ("Meet Me Halfway" stopped at #2 in both Billboard and R&R, behind "In Too Deep" in both places - though in R&R, it also took "I Wanna Dance With Somebody" to keep him out entirely.) "Because You Loved Me" may have had the record for the most weeks at #1 at this point, but that would be broken in 2004 by a song we heard last week - in 2003! "Drift Away" would drift at that top spot for a total of 23 weeks. "Too Late, Too Soon" had the third-biggest spin gain this week (+384), behind Bryan and Celine - and it'd be Bryan rather than Jon Secada that would be on his way to #1. And it'd be bad news all around on the CHR side for this week's Top 3 - "I Finally Found Someone" dropped off the chart entirely, "Un-break My Heart" would give up the fight for #1 after 3 weeks of trying, and "I Believe in You and Me" would plummet from #30 (where it peaked) to #40. Incidentally, this period would see stark differences between R&R's and Billboard's AC #1s - "Because You Loved Me" and "Change the World" did dominate the scene through the middle of 1996, but starting with "It's All Coming Back to Me Now", things change: - "Coming Back" would spend 4 weeks on top in R&R, 5 in Billboard.
- Next in R&R would be "You Can Make History (Young Again)" for 2 weeks - that stopped at #4 on Billboard.
- Next in Billboard would be "When You Love a Woman", which also came after Elton in R&R - it spent 3 weeks at #1 in both places.
- Next in R&R would be "I Finally Found Someone", which stopped at #2 on Billboard, behind "Un-break My Heart".
- They only got 1 week on top, as Toni would promptly kick them out - at this point, Toni's 7 weeks on top include the 2-week 1996-97 holiday break (more on that below).
- On Billboard, Toni followed Journey to the top - and would spend 14 weeks at #1. This, in turn, would prevent "I Believe in You and Me" and "Valentine" from going to #1 there; they stopped at #2 and #3, respectively.
- Back in R&R, Whitney would get 2 weeks on top before Toni returned to #1 for 2 more, getting 9 altogether. Then, "Valentine" would reach the top for 2 weeks.
- Coming after that, and also ending Toni's reign on Billboard, would be "All By Myself".
Now, Dick said Toni had had 7 weeks on top to this point. Her first week at #1 in R&R was their issue dated 12/20/96, which would translate to a countdown for the weekend of December 28. That, in turn, makes me wonder - did he really do a regular countdown for that weekend? If not, then why credit her with 7 weeks? And why yes, one of our extras ("Without You") gets an instant replay right after!
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Post by adam31 on Aug 2, 2021 17:56:21 GMT -5
I think I enjoyed the Star Wars Doritos commercials even more than the show!
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Post by Mike on Aug 2, 2021 19:08:13 GMT -5
Funny, I'm giving this one a second listen, as I'm not sure I was able to "fully" invest in it this morning due to all the info-checking I was doing. In the meantime - no less than three songs from Wednesday's upcoming 1991 were heard in the hour before tonight's encore. Also - Did Dick say that "Man in the Mirror" went all the way to #1? It did not, in fact, get there on the AC chart - it was held to #2 for 3 weeks behind "Where Do Broken Hearts Go" and "Anything For You". RE: "Beauty and the Beast" hitting #1. Why yes, that particular show (2/1/92, might have been labeled as 1/31) did pass through the Depot back in March! Apparently, Meat Loaf wanted to record "It's All Coming Back to Me Now" - but its writer Jim Steinman saw it as a woman's song and turned him down, even going to court to make it so. FULL CIRCLE: One Fine Day, the film - which "For the First Time" comes from - takes its title from the song originally done by The Chiffons in 1963, and co-written by Carole King, who covered it herself in 1980, in the process very nearly sharing countdown space with another Kenny Loggins soundtrack single, "I'm Alright". (Kenny debuted on the 8/23/80 AT40, the same week Carole fell out.) In the long, complicated relationship between AC and Country, "Valentine" falls into one of the more interesting places - for it ended up having separate chart lives. It was released to AC first, as the second single off Jim's album Picture This. It would then be re-recorded and released as the third single from Martina's album Evolution the following year, in turn making it a very rare single from a Country artist to go to AC before going to Country.
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Post by roadrunner on Aug 9, 2021 13:06:14 GMT -5
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Post by Mike on Aug 16, 2021 21:42:56 GMT -5
Chart: worldradiohistory.com/Archive-RandR/1990s/1993/RR-1993-01-15.pdf#page=88Countdown droppers would be Gloria Estefan's "Always Tomorrow" (LW: #18), a former AT40 Sneek Peek that did not touch any CHR countdown, and Richard Marx's "Chains Around My Heart", which goes right out from #11 (plummeting 11-21). Hour 1 could be described thusly: Last week's #1, Spotlight: Paul McCartney, and the Not Made For CHR Crowd - five out of the first six countdown songs would get zero mileage at CHR, and the sixth ("Irresistible", an extra for 1/30/93 Shadoe back in January), basically went far enough to appear and not much further. The countdown songs of the later two hours would have just two of them be AT40 misses (save for "No Ordinary Love" still being a Sneek Peek one week) while still reaching the R&R CHR countdowns. "In This Life" would be the one and only AC chart appearance from Collin Raye, entirely on his own - he'd return twice more as vocalist on Jim Brickman songs, in 1997 on "The Gift" and in 2003 on "Peace (Where the Heart Is)". This would also be its one and only week on Countdown America, as next week he'd get bounced out of the Top 20, and wouldn't recover. (On Casey's Countdown, it'd be 22-20-21-out.) "All at Once" would be the fifth/sixth and final single off Luck of the Draw - the fifth one to hit AC, but a sixth song, "Slow Ride" (like "All at Once", not a cover), only appeared on the Rock charts. "Not Gonna Change" (also stylized as "Notgonnachange") would basically be it for Swing Out Sister, Stateside - 1997's "Somewhere in the World" did also reach AC, but with a Billboard peak of #30, I doubt it reached the R&R countdowns. "Flesh and Blood" would drop off the entire R&R chart from that #17 perch the very next week. And that would nearly be it for Wilson Phillips, as well - they'd return to Countdown America one more time in 2004 with a cover of "Go Your Own Way", and in 2012 they also had a cover of "Good Vibrations" (go figure) reach AC, but other than those, their only appearances have been Christmas-related. If it's the correct Kurt Howell, then he was a member of the country rock band Southern Pacific from 1986 until they disbanded in 1991. That's literally all that I can find on the man without having to Google, which I am loath to do as I don't particularly want to go down a rabbit hole. I will note, that Paul McCartney was releasing a brand new album and single at this time - this same weekend, "Hope of Deliverance" would be the Weekly Top 40 Sure Shot. That, of course, would do nothing at CHR, but would be his last Top 10 AC countdown hit a few months later. "No Ordinary Love" would pop in and out of the Top 40 Radio Monitor three times during 1993 - more on THAT to come on Wednesday - the second time coming from prominent usage in the movie Indecent Proposal. The following week's R&R would have an article in the CHR section about balancing the ballads - of which there were quite a few at this time - and other format tricks. One music director was quoted thusly: A lot of the time, she may have been right, but this may actually have been a time where one could get away with Celine and Michael Bolton back to back, given Celine's uptempo, if dance-able even, "Love Can Move Mountains" - produced as that was by Ric Wake, who also helmed one Taylor Dayne's Pop rise. (Then again, perhaps that music director shouldn't have been kidding herself too much - her station, WMGV, is now WVBO, which has been an oldies/classic hits station since May 1994. ) "What Have I Done to Deserve This?" actually wasn't terribly huge on AC - it only reached #13 on Countdown America. "Heal the World" likely had a resurgence of airplay following a 90-minute interview he granted to Oprah a few weeks after this - thus why after initially sputtering upon its original release, with just a single week at #39 on AT40, it then went on to reach #21 in a second run a couple of months later. But, the still-playlist-using R&R reports (where it reached #20 this very week) decided its first run was enough and didn't bother "reporting" the second round of airplay. Of the chart debuts, you might be forgiven for thinking that Michael Bolton would go on to have the biggest hit of the three. In fact, it'd be the newcomer, Wendy Moten, who would do it - "Ordinary World" stopped at #14, Michael Bolton would go to #8, while Wendy Moten would spend 3 weeks at #6. Bolton would, obviously, go up much faster. And this entry gives us two Countdown Americas that have passed through the Listener Depot with Disney #1s, after 2/1/92, plus a third comes from the Casey's Countdown entry of 8/20/94. For Countdown America, those three times would do it, but for the U.S. Music Survey, entries from July or August of 1995 ("Colors of the Wind"), 1997 ("Go the Distance"), or 1999 ("You'll Be in My Heart") would do the trick as well.
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Post by roadrunner on Aug 30, 2021 9:29:04 GMT -5
In the late 80s and early 90s when there was no internet like today, it needed much more effort to bring the world closer together. In 1985 VOA Europe started to bring the sound of american radio to europe. As a teenager back then I did not know about the station and satellite reception was so mew that it took a lot of money and knowledge to receive VOA Europe in the 80s. But in 1993 I fullfilled my dream to receive my first american radio station 24/7 at home. It was a great time because as a listener you could always get in contact via phone call (bit expensive back then) or write a letter - and you always got friendly response with a programm schedule and some more information about the station. VOA Europe had all the great syndicated radio shows on the schedule we love till today. If I had a hard disk instead of cassette tapes I would have recorded much more great shows... Here are some memories from a time the internet was not invented and America was far away on the other side of the atlantic - exciting times..
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Post by mitchm on Aug 31, 2021 8:46:56 GMT -5
I was really enjoying the 03/25/95 Retro Show by Gary Spears yesterday morning. None of the songs were from the 90s, I think they were all dance songs from 1975 to 1985 (so that's what Retro means). I was thinking this show wouldn't be too out of place as part of the American Dance Traxx series on Friday evening except probably 40% of the songs played were from 1975-1979. I noticed that at least twice a song stopped abruptly and then the show restarted as if it was coming back from an ad break (those darn cassettes were never big enough back in 1995). Also, Gary said that the show was 3 hours at the beginning but it cut off at 96 minutes with no show-ending comments. But I did enjoy the 96 minutes I heard. Thanks roadrunner
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Post by roadrunner on Sept 2, 2021 7:41:16 GMT -5
I was really enjoying the 03/25/95 Retro Show by Gary Spears yesterday morning. None of the songs were from the 90s, I think they were all dance songs from 1975 to 1985 (so that's what Retro means). I was thinking this show wouldn't be too out of place as part of the American Dance Traxx series on Friday evening except probably 40% of the songs played were from 1975-1979. I noticed that at least twice a song stopped abruptly and then the show restarted as if it was coming back from an ad break (those darn cassettes were never big enough back in 1995). Also, Gary said that the show was 3 hours at the beginning but it cut off at 96 minutes with no show-ending comments. But I did enjoy the 96 minutes I heard. Thanks roadrunner Hi mitchm,
I´m happy to hear that you liked the "retro show" which was indeed a 3 hour show reviewing the music from the mid 70s till early 80s. With all the good shows on VOA Europe + AT40 + BBC Radio 1fm and my favorite german station OK Radio I would have needed maybe 50 cassette tapes a weekend to record all great shows entirely and several tape decks and recorders when shows would have been at the same time slot.. . I still have my about 350 tapes here at home with a mix of everything on it because like you said: "there was not enough space at all on the tapes" although the shows and music was so good in the 80s and 90s that it was a shame that the harddisk was invented a bit too late.
I have still parts of " The Countdown" with Walt Baby Love and some Future hits shows with Joel Denver. The problem is, that I mostly only recorded the new entries of the week and some other songs new to the countdown every 1,5 months. If I put together 3 of these recordings it could end up to a 2 hour recording. If you would like to listen to Walt baby Love and Joel Denver again I could send it to the listener depot. But it would be more a cross section of several shows together than a countdown. What would you say, adam31?
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Post by adam31 on Sept 2, 2021 7:52:16 GMT -5
I was really enjoying the 03/25/95 Retro Show by Gary Spears yesterday morning. None of the songs were from the 90s, I think they were all dance songs from 1975 to 1985 (so that's what Retro means). I was thinking this show wouldn't be too out of place as part of the American Dance Traxx series on Friday evening except probably 40% of the songs played were from 1975-1979. I noticed that at least twice a song stopped abruptly and then the show restarted as if it was coming back from an ad break (those darn cassettes were never big enough back in 1995). Also, Gary said that the show was 3 hours at the beginning but it cut off at 96 minutes with no show-ending comments. But I did enjoy the 96 minutes I heard. Thanks roadrunner Hi mitchm,
I´m happy to hear that you liked the "retro show" which was indeed a 3 hour show reviewing the music from the mid 70s till early 80s. With all the good shows on VOA Europe + AT40 + BBC Radio 1fm and my favorite german station OK Radio I would have needed maybe 50 cassette tapes a weekend to record all great shows entirely and several tape decks and recorders when shows would have been at the same time slot.. . I still have my about 350 tapes here at home with a mix of everything on it because like you said: "there was not enough space at all on the tapes" although the shows and music was so good in the 80s and 90s that it was a shame that the harddisk was invented a bit too late.
I have still parts of " The Countdown" with Walt Baby Love and some Future hits shows with Joel Denver. The problem is, that I mostly only recorded the new entries of the week and some other songs new to the countdown every 1,5 months. If I put together 3 of these recordings it could end up to a 2 hour recording. If you would like to listen to Walt baby Love and Joel Denver again I could send it to the listener depot. But it would be more a cross section of several shows together than a countdown. What would you say, adam31? I'm all for it. Listener Depot is for whatever you all want to put on. Doesn't have to be perfect.
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Post by mitchm on Sept 2, 2021 10:06:09 GMT -5
Adam & Jeff - Here is another show that would fit right in with the WGXX format. It ran on WBME and was called the "Classic Rock Spotlight". I think there were about 15 shows in the entire series of which half were from the 70s and half from the 80s. The 7 shows from the 80s were dated between 1980 & 1987. I don't remember if it was a Top 30 or a Top 40 countdown, probably a Top 30. I think some classic rock countdowns from the 80s would fit nicely on Listener Depot.
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Post by Mike on Sept 20, 2021 9:34:55 GMT -5
SNEEK PREVIEW: "No More 'I Love You's", #12 in the survey, played a little over a half hour before showtime. Chart: worldradiohistory.com/Archive-RandR/1990s/1995/RR-1995-05-12.pdf#page=48 (This is a week where the cue sheet is missing.) Gloria Estefan went recurrent off Hot AC this week - the two AC charts already had the below #15 + 3 weeks of spin losses rule. Bonnie Raitt, meanwhile, was in her second "spin loss" week, and crept down 20-21. (One had to be below #15 AND losing spins for 3 consecutive weeks to go - it didn't matter how many weeks a song lost spins while above #15, none of those weeks counted against it. In contrast, with the rule CHR would use for a few months in 2001, any spin loss week counted against a song, no matter where on the chart that song was - they'd just have to stay above #25 in order to dodge the axe.) I actually haven't heard "If I Wanted To" before this - is it just me, or does it seem "poppier" than the two hits that came before it? These big Hootie hits, if their heyday had been even just a few years later, would likely have been runaway #1s on Hot AC - but at this time, the format is still in an emergent stage, trying to figure out just where its sound should fall. To wit: Hootie would instead have just one #1 to their credit, and that wouldn't be until "Time". "Uptown Girl" hitting #1 on the AC chart is an R&R-only stat - on Billboard, it stopped at #2, as "All Night Long (All Night)" held him to #2 for 3 weeks before "The Way He Makes Me Feel" jumped over and he spent a 4th week at #2. (Notably, Barbra didn't reach #1 on R&R's AC chart.) Past Pop #1 "Bette Davis Eyes", as it happens, did not even sniff the Top 10 on the AC chart. What did Hot AC have against "Strong Enough"? Sheryl was following up the #1 "All I Wanna Do", yet "Strong" would only reach #12. Upon checking, the original "No More 'I Love You's" was done by English duo The Lover Sparks, who did not have a hit with it, only reaching #88 in Cash Box (and not touching Billboard at all). "House of Love" is the only Odd Bullet in the bunch - actually it's bulletless as it goes back up one. But note that there's just 8 bullets in the countdown. "Time After Time" wouldn't have hit #1 in an AC countdown until 5/26 - on 5/19, that would have been "The Longest Time". And with "I Don't Wanna Cry", they're not even trying to hide using the magazine date - it wouldn't have hit #1 in an AC countdown (in this case Countdown America) until 6/1. On 5/18, that would have been "Baby Baby", while on 5/25, it would have been "Love is a Wonderful Thing". Using the Pop chart for Mariah instead only moves her up by one week (so, 5/25 rather than 6/1). And since Casey didn't read "other" #1s (or if he did, they were apparently lost), I'll offer some. #1 on the AC chart (Casey's Countdown, of course) is also "Believe". #1 on the Country chart: "What Mattered Most" by Ty Herndon #1 on the R&B chart: "GCCrapevyne" by Brownstone #1 on the Pop chart: "I Know" (for its record-tying-for-R&R 9th, and last, week) Also, this clearly had the closing theme spliced in.
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Post by Mike on Sept 20, 2021 9:38:09 GMT -5
MEANWHILE, IN BILLBOARD LAND... As with the 1994 Casey's Countdown, this compares an AC chart to a combined Billboard AC. But having said that, by now R&R's Hot AC chart and Billboard's (overall) AC chart feel a LOT more similar than they did just the previous summer. I'm finding that most songs ended up peaking within just one or two notches of each other between the two charts. In any event, this would have been one of "those" weeks on a Billboard AT20 - no debuts, no droppers, and actually for the second straight week. But as it happens, there's noticeably more movement within the Top 20 than there was back on the 1994 week - just three songs hold position (versus eight last time), and #1 is not one of them! 20 17 Melissa Etheridge - If I Wanted To 19 18 Bonnie Raitt - You Got It 18 20 Boyz II Men - On Bended Knee 17 19 Vanessa Williams - The Sweetest Days 16 16 Gloria Estefan - Everlasting Love 15 14 Melissa Etheridge - I'm the Only One 14 11 Sheryl Crow - Strong Enough 13 12 Jamie Walters - Hold On 12 15 Annie Lennox - No More "I Love You"s 11 13 Blessid Union of Souls - I Believe 10 10 Foreigner - Until the End of Time 09 09 Hootie & The Blowfish - Hold My Hand 08 07 Amy Grant & Vince Gill - House of Love 07 06 The Eagles - Love Will Keep Us Alive 06 04 Des'ree - You Gotta Be 05 03 Madonna - Take a Bow 04 08 Dionne Farris - I Know 03 05 Bryan Adams - Have You Ever Really Loved a Woman? 02 01 Martin Page - In the House of Stone and Light 01 02 Elton John - Believe "On Bended Knee" actually went recurrent at R&R's Hot AC last month, and falls off Casey's Countdown just this week - as does "The Sweetest Days", though she's actually off to Recurrent Land there this week (whereas they don't go until next week). As for Casey's Hot 20, Vanessa had been off the countdown for a month now. Over here, this would be the last week in the Top 20 for the Boyz, while Vanessa would last just one more week before she'd be off to Recurrent Land as well. Actually, the bottom three would all depart from the Top 20 next week. Bonnie Raitt had been to #6 here, and hit #8 on Casey's Hot 20. "Everlasting Love" had been to #5 here, and hit #6 on Casey's Hot 20. Firehouse would creep into the Top 20 the following week at #20 - and that would be it for them. The Eagles debuted on the AC chart at #27, and would take "Still" to #15. On Casey's Hot 20, it would reach #13, while on Casey's Countdown, it'd easily go higher - over there, it's easily the week's Biggest Mover, flying up 17-11 in just its second week on the entire chart. I do know that it wouldn't reach #1, but Top 5 would be a good bet with this fast start. "If I Wanted To" and "Strong Enough" both peaked last week. "Let Her Cry" was #24 this week, and would be the highest of three Top 20 debuts next week, enroute to reaching #6 (just like its predecessor). "Secret Garden", #22 this week, would be the third debut next week - though like Firehouse, Bruce wouldn't last long, spending two weeks at #19. (His is probably the biggest peak difference, as he'd reach #15 on Casey's Hot 20. NOTE: These figures are both from just its 1995 run - in 1997, it'd reach #12 on Billboard's Adult Top 40 and #11 on Casey's Hot 20.) "I'm the Only One" hit #1 here as well - in fact, she rather than Real McCoy would be dancing in and out of #1 with Boyz II Men, at the very same time of AT40's original ending, no less! (It was also with "I'll Make Love to You" rather than "On Bended Knee" - "Knee" only reached #8 here. "Love" spent the last two weeks of 1994 at #1 on AC, then Melissa kicked them out for a week to begin 1995, then they returned to #1 for a 3rd week, then she returned to #1 for a 2nd week.) "I Believe" would reach #5 here, and #4 on Casey's Hot 20. "No More 'I Love You's" would reach #10 here, #9 on Casey's Hot 20. "Until the End of Time" reached #8 here, but managed to reach #2 on Casey's Countdown. "Love Will Keep Us Alive" spent 3 weeks at #1 here, but just one on Casey's Hot 20. "Hold On" was actually a backwards bullet this week, and had one of just six bullets in the Top 20 this week (#13, #12, #11, #4, #3, #1). It wouldn't go too much higher, however, reaching #9. On Casey's Hot 20, it reached #6. "Take a Bow" spent 9 weeks at #1 here - but on Casey's Countdown, she was stopped at #2 by "Love Will Keep Us Alive" and "Believe". "House of Love" reached #5 both places. On Casey's Hot 20, the #1 progression would be: Melissa Etheridge, then Des'ree for a week, then the Eagles for a week, then Madonna. On Billboard, first the Eagles flew past Des'ree to hit #1, then Madonna flew past her to do the same. Madonna would hold her to #2 for 2 weeks here. "Hold My Hand" wouldn't go recurrent off Billboard until September 16 - four months later! In R&R, owing to their higher recurrent bar, they'd go in August. The next 3 weeks would see the #1 dominoes all fall in Bryan Adams's favor - on Casey's Countdown, he hit the top next week, on Billboard, it'd be the week after that, on Casey's Hot 20, it'd be the week after that. This was the second of NINE non-consecutive weeks at #3 for "I Know" - but on Billboard, she managed to reach #2 for a week three weeks later. This was the last of 8 weeks atop Casey's Countdown and the 4th of 6 atop Casey's Hot 20 for Elton John - but on Billboard, he only got 2 weeks on top! Instead, Martin Page would spend 4 weeks at #1, compared to just one on Casey's Hot 20 and being held to #2 on Casey's Countdown.
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Post by Mike on Oct 11, 2021 21:48:22 GMT -5
Since this is just two weeks following 1/23 (heard back in August), I figured I'd do a three-week chart listing. 27 21 20 Collin Raye - In This Life XX XX 17 Wilson Phillips - Flesh and Blood XX 18 14 Jon Secada - Do You Believe in Us 23 15 12 Michael Bolton - To Love Somebody 20 25 -- Jon Secada - Angel 19 -- -- Elton John - Simple Life 18 11 09 Elton John - The Last Song 17 20 22 Jude Cole - Tell the Truth 16 16 18 Swing Out Sister - Not Gonna Change 15 17 19 Bonnie Raitt - All at Once 14 19 23 Boyz II Men - In the Still of the Nite 13 14 15 Kurt Howell - Does Love Not Open Your Eyes 12 06 03 Whitney Houston - I Will Always Love You 11 12 13 Sade - No Ordinary Love 10 13 16 Cathy Dennis - Irresistible 09 07 04 Genesis - Never a Time 08 08 08 Michael Jackson - Heal the World 07 10 11 Celine Dion - Love Can Move Mountains 06 09 10 Patty Smyth - No Mistakes 05 04 05 Peter Cetera & Chaka Khan - Feels Like Heaven 04 02 02 Restless Heart - When She Cries 03 05 06 Go West - Faithful 02 03 07 Kenny G - Forever in Love 01 01 01 Peabo Bryson & Regina Belle - A Whole New World "Do You Believe in Us" dropped off the chart indeed - not just the countdown, the entire R&R chart. "To Love Somebody" is the other song that leaves the countdown this week. Meanwhile, here I thought that 3/14/92 could almost be considered a CHR Top 20...this week's countdown has even more in common with the CHR chart/CT40 - just THREE songs here won't chart there at all, while Elton John's two are the only other ones not on CHR this week, playing As The Months Turn in the process ("The Last Song" fell off a month ago, while "Simple Life" wouldn't reach the chart until a month later). Incidentally, Dick wasn't kidding when he said "Simple Life" would be one to watch - by the time it hit CHR, it'd already be knocking on the #1 door here. "Yah Mo B There" is an example of how AC could have a habit of picking up Gold hits as newly-acceptable for the format, even when it turned up its nose at them when they were actually hits - it stopped at #23 on Billboard's AC chart, and I'm not sure it would have reached an R&R AC countdown (or if it did, just barely). "Just Once", on the other hand, is a little more like it - that reached #7 on Billboard's chart. "In the Still of the Nite" would mark the beginning of an AC-friendly period for Boyz II Men, with their album II turning out a trio of Top 10 hits, and "One Sweet Day" immediately following those. (AC mostly turned up its nose at "End of the Road", as that only reached #35 on Billboard's AC chart - in a similar vein, Shanice's "Saving Forever For You", currently Top 5 at CHR, did not even chart on AC.) "No Ordinary Love" would take one more step, to #10, and would then quickly dive out of sight. It'd be Sade's last trip to the Top 10. Dick is correct that "Love Can Move Mountains" was the only current Dance hit - Cathy Dennis, actually, never charted there again after "You Lied to Me". Meanwhile, "Love Can Move Mountains" was actually about to exit the Dance chart by now, after having begun the year by hitting #5. (An almost Twilight Zone-esque juxtaposition, if you ask me, with Cathy switching to AC for good [albeit never charting Stateside again after the Into the Skyline album], while Celine Dion was landing her first Dance hit.) I have no idea on the source of the stat that The Carpenters had 9 Countdown America #1s...it can't be R&R, as believe it or not, after 1974's "I Won't Last a Day Without You", they never hit #1 on R&R's AC chart again! That's right - looking over the #1 lists from their early years, their AC chart seems to have leaned Hot for much of the 70s. Meanwhile, they'd work their way up to 15 total #1s on Billboard (among all acts, only Elton John has more, with 16), of which only 7 of those were within the timeframe of the R&R AC chart's existence. And no sooner does Dick Clark say that next week's spotlight will be on Richard Marx, that we get the man himself! Though I sincerely doubt that "Satisfied" would be one of the songs played for it. All in all, it seems to be back to mostly better - there were two hiccups during the show, one at the beginning of #12 and one not too long after, and then one just now as "Satisfied" was starting. Otherwise, it held up.
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Post by Mike on Oct 20, 2021 6:50:39 GMT -5
Chart: worldradiohistory.com/Archive-RandR/1990s/1997/RR-1997-03-14.pdf#page=98Note that the Top 10 is, shall we say, top-heavy - it's more in how far ahead songs are up there versus lower. With songs not gaining or (most of the time) losing spins as quickly as they would in later years (see also below), it's no wonder that the year's biggest hits would last so long in the upper reaches. FUNNY HOW...TIME FLIES: In just the span of 2 & 1/2 years, there are very, very few acts in common with both this countdown and with 1999. I count just three: Whitney Houston, Paula Cole, and Savage Garden - and the latter two are in this countdown with their first Top 40 hits. We narrowly miss a fourth with the Red Hot Chili Peppers dropping out this week, while a fifth, Edwin McCain, is heard on the Trojan condom PSAs (to this point, he'd had just one Top 40 hit - "Solitude" from late 1995). The first two songs in the countdown actually tied in spins - U2 had both a bigger spin gain and was on more stations than Joose; "Staring at the Sun" was also debuting on the entire R&R chart. Meanwhile, "When You're Gone" dropped off the entire R&R chart from #34! That amounts to a spin loss of at least -416 - only three on the chart lost that much or more: "Un-break My Heart" (-427), "The Holy River" (-854), and "Don't Cry For Me Argentina" (-949). It should come as no surprise that a song that's been on a roller coaster ride on the chart should be the first subject of this week's - ODD BULLET BEHAVIOR: And actually, its past two weeks both qualify. Two weeks ago, "Pony" was up two notches and lost -70, then last week it gained back 5 spins but went back those same 2 notches. This week, it's down -62 spins and back up a notch. The other two such songs this week are both bulletless rises as well - "I Like It" loses its bullet as it lumbers up one more notch to peak at #24, and Incidentally, "Pony" is a song I can vaguely remember hearing on the radio a couple of times back then, though mostly for that distinctive melody. While "The Holy River" wouldn't see a commercial single release here in the States, it would be issued as a double A-side with this week's #1 R&B single "Somebody's Somebody" elsewhere. Speaking of the latter - just how different were the Billboard and R&R R&B/Urban charts at this time? "Somebody's Somebody" apparently only reached #15 on Billboard's R&B Airplay chart. The connections to this week's Shadoe from 1994 continue! ...sort of. I've mentioned previously that "I Go Blind" started out as a B-side to "Hold My Hand"; we'll be hearing the A-side as an Extra later on this morning. I can't be the only one thinking that the combination of band name Luscious Jackson and song "Naked Eye" would conjure up some kind of overly-titillating image that the song itself really doesn't reflect. Incidentally, David mentioned that "Talk to Me" was featured in Fools Rush In, but actually so too was "Naked Eye" - and in the same scene as Wild Orchid, at that. I'm not sure when they started treating re-entries as actual re-entries rather than as additional debuts - I'd have to re-check 1998 to be sure, but I think Casey didn't start distinguishing between the two until 1999. I know that'd be AT40, but my point is the "re-entries = debuts" habit would carry over, at least initially (on 7/4/98, which saw both "Time of Your Life" and "To the Moon and Back" return, Casey called them both debuts even though he did explain that they'd been around before). Yeesh, the first segment in Hour 2 degenerated into a total skip-fest starting with during #30. The week's Biggest Mover, "One More Time", only missed also being the biggest spin gainer by just 2 spins - it gained +543, while "Where Have All the Cowboys Gone?" gained +545. (Everything was smaller about CHR in 1997 - less stations, less spin counts, less intense spin gains/losses [well, maybe not less losses...]) COUNTING IS HARD: R&R would be particularly prone to errors in counting chart weeks during the first year/year and a half of using a recurrent rule, either removing songs too early or leaving them on too long. This week, there's two instances of this in play - this is the week that "Head Over Feet" was left on an extra week even though this would be its 27th chart week (I say "chart week" as they didn't count holiday break weeks), ergo it shouldn't be here. The other is from a song removed too early - two weeks ago, "If it Makes You Happy" was taken off even though it'd only had 23 chart weeks to that point, meaning not only should it still be here, THIS should be its 26th and final week. ("Mouth", however, is correctly still here - the bar was set at falling below #25.) I don't know why Wiki doesn't mention this anywhere, but "Say...if You Feel Alright" samples Earth, Wind, & Fire's "September". MEANWHILE, IN BILLBOARD LAND... - DROPPERS: "Mouth", "If it Makes You Happy" (both recurrent), "Desperately Wanting". Alanis went recurrent over here two weeks back - Billboard may not be perfect, but they never had a problem counting chart weeks correctly.
- The other three CT40 droppers - The Cranberries, Red Hot Chili Peppers, New Edition - were all still charting here, as well as Ghost Town DJs, believe it or not. "My Boo" had been a recurrent on R&R for a month now, but over here, this was its 26th and final week - in that month's span, it had fallen off Billboard for a week, returned and stayed through to now. Of the other three, the Cranberries would also fall off next week, while the other two would go the week after.
- Wild Orchid was the only debut in common with CT40 - the other two debuts were Jon Secada and Real McCoy (the latter sailing in at #28), while Joose and U2 would debut here next week. Worth noting that for Secada, everything after "If You Go" peaked several notches lower on Billboard than on R&R - "Too Late, Too Soon" would reach #23 on CT40, but only #28 here.
- Conversely, Bruce Springsteen was ahead of the game here - he debuted the previous week, and this week tied for the week's Biggest Mover with Monica (each up eight notches, to #22 and #25). (So yes, Billboard's Biggest Mover would be CT40's highest debut, and vice-versa.) And "Secret Garden" only had the one appearance here - it didn't reach Billboard in 1995 (ergo, when he debuted last week, it really was a debut).
- No-longer-Prince was also the week's Biggest Dropper here, but it would be much closer than on CT40 - Madonna fell eight notches both places, but "The Holy River" only fell nine here (23-32) rather than 14.
- Ginuwine would spend 3 non-consecutive weeks at #28 here, and actually last week was the last of those - this week, he's #29.
- "Step By Step" stopped at #26 here (which would be next week).
- "I Go Blind" cracked the Top 20 on the last week of 1996, and would stay up there through February - even though it didn't go too far in, reaching #17. This week, it was back up a notch to #24. While it would last long enough to go recurrent off the R&R chart, it would fall off CT40 before getting there - while over here, it went the full 26 weeks (this week being its 23rd).
- Blackstreet peaked the same week they did on CT40 - but over here, they reached #10.
- The entire Top 10 matches CT40, in order.
- And this was the third of what would be seven weeks...straight, at #4, for the Spice Girls.
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Post by adam31 on Oct 20, 2021 9:26:20 GMT -5
Yeesh, the first segment in Hour 2 degenerated into a total skip-fest starting with during #30. Whomever submitted it to the LD said there were some skips. I edited them out and added promos and ID's then got distracted and forgot to save the edited file *sheesh* Still don't know who sent this show, but much appreciated!
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Post by at40fansince1984 on Oct 20, 2021 10:54:47 GMT -5
It was Dees Sleeze who sent it but I have a copy too.
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